• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Constitution class appearance in DS9 fleet

Mr_Closet

Lieutenant
Red Shirt
In an episode of DS9 (the name of which I cannot recall) we briefly glimpse a Constitution class ship in the foreground.

Any ideas which ship this was supposed to be and if it was given a history?

After reading Memory Alpha, it occured to me that it could always be the Exeter, which was last seen in orbit of a primitive planet and considered "lost with all hands". I'm considering this based on the fact that any ship surviving until the Dominion war would have to be in pretty good material condition and to have had a pretty easy early life that didn't stress or strain it too much. Just as submarines have a limited number of deep dives they can achieve before needing a major overhaul or being decommissioned, or having an artificial safe limit imposed on them because the hull can't take the stress anymore, so would a starship that was pushed hard wear out. There might be only so many times it can take the strain of maximum warp, or so many times it can suffer the microscopic damage caused by intense radiation from heavenly bodies, and that's not even considering battle damage inflicted by the kind of weaponry that can sterilise a planets surface!

I'm presuming that the Exeter is eventually recovered at Starfleets leisure and brought up to refit standard, but that by this time things like Excelsior are taking the lime light so the Exeter tools around in the backwaters and hinterlands, doing security patrols and colony support and cadet training for most of it's career, staying well away from things that cause hull fatigue like extreme velocity, radiation exposure and battle damage, and after growing old gracefully is eventually mothballed, only to reactivated for the Dominion war effort (where she probably suffers a very quick, messy, explosive and unedifying demise beneath a swarm of bug ships!)

Plausible?

Cheers,
 
Are you thinking of Trials and Tribulations maybe? If not, could you post a pic or a link to a pic if you remember the episode?
 
I really can't understand why they would send a Constitution class ship on the front line, it should be a training vessel or a last ditch defense or something
 
Cannon fodder. They showed plenty of Mirandas in the Dominion War as well, and most of them met quick, and quite spectacular deaths. They probably pulled a bunch of relics out of mothballs, refitted them as quickly as possible and manned them with a bunch of misfits knowing that their only jobs were to draw as much enemy fire as possible so the hero ships could do their jobs.
 
Kirby said:
Cannon fodder. They showed plenty of Mirandas in the Dominion War as well, and most of them met quick, and quite spectacular deaths. They probably pulled a bunch of relics out of mothballs, refitted them as quickly as possible and manned them with a bunch of misfits knowing that their only jobs were to draw as much enemy fire as possible so the hero ships could do their jobs.

Indeed, the fact that the ships had names like USS Rest in peace, USS Bullseye, USS Target, USS Deathtrap and USS Meaningless death was a bit of a give away. :lol:
 
Can you imagine the sign-up

"Wow! We get 10,000 Federation Credits to sign up..."

"Wait, aren't we economically free?"

"Awww crap..."
 
Offhand, all I can think of is that one Connie we saw in the aftermath of Wolf 359 ("The Best of Both Worlds, Part 2"). You might be a little mixed up here, unless there was a DS9 episode where I missed something. I suppose either vessel could theoretically be the ill-fated USS Exeter.
 
There was never a Connie on DS9, although if the tech manual is to be believed, some of the ships used in the Dominion War were hastily done kitbashes using some parts from that class. We never saw those ships though.

(Although we *did* see the Yeager class, a curious mishmash of an Intrepid saucer and a Maquis raider, never mind the impossibility of scale)

And I love how we use the name 'Connie' to describe the Constitution class. It makes it sound so..."cute". :lol:
 
Yeah, aside from the Constitution hull from BOBW (which magically disappears after the break - guess it had a cloak :p) I can't recall any such ships appearing in DS9. Several Ambassadors did appear throughout the series though.

I personally have no problem with movie-era ships being still in service, seeing as how such vessels are still in use by the Feds and the Klingons use old designs as well. It seems reasonable that futuristic vessels would have a longer potential life span than a modern design might.
 
I think I remember seeing it tucked away in a big fleet scene.
I agree with Kirby...who the heck did they get to crew those old refits? I certainly wouldn't want to be on one!
 
Babaganoosh said:


(Although we *did* see the Yeager class, a curious mishmash of an Intrepid saucer and a Maquis raider, never mind the impossibility of scale)

Man - that is one ugly ship!
 
Nardpuncher said:
I think I remember seeing it tucked away in a big fleet scene.
I agree with Kirby...who the heck did they get to crew those old refits? I certainly wouldn't want to be on one!

There were no Constitutions. It was probably a Steamrunner, which can look remarkably similar from forward and below.
 
I don't recall seeing one either, and it seems unlikely since the actual filming model is huge and cumbersome to work with and I think if the team had gone through the trouble of making a CGI version they would want you to really notice it.
 
JoeZhang said:
Kirby said:
Cannon fodder. They showed plenty of Mirandas in the Dominion War as well, and most of them met quick, and quite spectacular deaths. They probably pulled a bunch of relics out of mothballs, refitted them as quickly as possible and manned them with a bunch of misfits knowing that their only jobs were to draw as much enemy fire as possible so the hero ships could do their jobs.

Indeed, the fact that the ships had names like USS Rest in peace, USS Bullseye, USS Target, USS Deathtrap and USS Meaningless death was a bit of a give away. :lol:

The were all ships of the "Doesn't Have Any Shields" sub-class.
 
I doubt it was a Constitution Class. They were retired in the 2330s anyway, and being older than the Excelsiors or Mirandas, they would be retired earlier.
 
misskim86 said:
Was the Miranda class a 23rd century class too?

See The Wrath of Khan...

Babaganoosh said:
And I love how we use the name 'Connie' to describe the Constitution class. It makes it sound so..."cute". :lol:

Does that bother anyone else as much as me? Personally the name "Connie" makes me picture some chick from the 80s in a fringed leather jacket, Megadeath t-shirt and really big teased bangs.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top