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Confessions of a shopaholic's boyfriend.

Tiberius Jim

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Well, this isn't so much a confession, more of a realization. I've been dating my girlfriend for over 3 months now, and have known her for about 6 months. So far, everything about her has lead me to believe that she is "the one." We have an amazing connection, she's not clingy or possessive but still makes it very clear how she feels about me. She actually wanted to go see Star Trek with me, and it was actually her idea for us to go see it a second time. She is into cars, she appreciates my passion for art and gives me her full support in the endeavors I choose to take on. I very much love her and can completely see myself starting a family with her some day.

There is, however, one aspect of her that is troubling me. She seems very much addicted to shopping, particularly when it comes to makeup. If MAC is having a sale, or is pushing some new "limited edition" line, she's there and most likely leaves with something. It's the same with clothes, too. The worst part of it, is she does all of this using credit.

I knew she was a little intense about the makeup before, but she really brought it to my attention tonight when she asked me to stop her if I ever see her using her Macy's card. Apparently, she got the bill today, and it's nearly maxed out. When I asked what "maxed out" meant in terms of dollars, she's racked up a total just south of $4000. She has a couple other cards totaling around $2000, for a grand total of $6000 she owes.

That might not be bad if she was making a good salary, maybe a solid $60k a year or something like that...but she's only working part time at a retail store making about $9 an hour. What is worse...that grand total was half of what it is now just a few months ago. She's basically spending twice what she makes a month. To make matters even worse, she's been paying other credit card bills with this credit card...essentially digging one hole in order to fill up another.

If I were a less caring guy or less invested in my relationship with her, I'd probably just say "Whatever, its your money, your problem" However, I do care for her very much, so any problem she has is ultimately my problem as well. I'm not saying I'm going to pay her bills for her...because I too am only working a retail job right now and have my own credit cards to pay off...but I still know I need to help her out.

I've already told her to stop using the cards right away. I suggested cutting up all but one, and using one with the lowest interest rate as an emergency card, and to only use that for true emergencies (new car battery, towing, tire repair, ER bills, etc). She doesn't want to cut them up, so I told her she can give them to me, and I can more or less hold them hostage. That way at least the amount she owes won't get too much bigger...except for the fact that each card is accruing interest each month.

That's all I can think of doing for her at this point. I wish her parents had been better at teaching her how to manage her finances better and not seeing credit cards as "magic pieces of plastic that give you things" but I fear that's how she sees them. It's tough for me to realize this, because otherwise she's very intelligent. I still love her, of course, but it is just a bit of a disappointment. It also worries me when it comes to our future...if we both end up having careers and a joined bank account, would I be worried that she'd blow through a ton of our money in the way she's going through her own now?

Anyway, thanks for reading, and any thought or suggestions that may help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Red flags man. Red flags! Just remember, lots of people saw warning signs about their partners, only to claim "But we're special, she'd never hurt ME" only to be screwed. Run for the hills, or enjoy your future financial ruin. At best you'll make good money, and stay afloat, but still have to watch her waste obscene amounts of money.

Plenty of fish in the sea chief!
 
You need to figure out how to earn more money to subsidise her properly.

I suggest a life of white-collar crime. Think about it. This could be the making of you. And you'll owe it all to her!

Seriously, if she doesn't want to stop spending yet, she's not going to. You could try to work on her motivation, but if you're too pushy she's going to get irritated.
 
She's doing it because it makes her feel good. Deep down, she's got isseus with the way she looks and she's using makeup as a way to present herself to the world. She's a woman, and like it or not, the world judges her on how she looks.

She's an addict looking for another hit. The key is to get her some professional help to deal with what's making her feel inadequate. It's the same thing with someone who abuses alcohol, drugs, smokes, or something else to make them feel better. Makeup's just her drug of choice.

CD,
Been there, Done that.
 
That's quite normal. Most 20 somethings I know are in debt and living way beyond their means. Her debt is not your problem though. Surely she has parents who might help in some way? There's a good likelihood even if you do help her pay it off, she'll be back into it in no time at all. That's what shopaholics are like, whether it's shoes or handbags that are their poison. With the women I know, it's spa treatments and eating out that get them in trouble.

Whatever you do, don't blow whatever little savings you might have on a shopaholic!

Doesn't have to mean you couldn't share a life with her though... you would simply need different accounts. She can blow her own as much as she likes and leave you out of it.
 
If he's expecting to live with her or even marry her (based on his comments about 'the one') then it's most definitely his problem.

All I can say is.... help her as much as you can, the keeping her cards is a good idea... try to wean her off.... but if she isn't able to break the habit... mark my words, do not marry her. once again, do not marry her. It will be your financial ruin.
 
That's quite normal. Most 20 somethings I know are in debt and living way beyond their means. Her debt is not your problem though. Surely she has parents who might help in some way? There's a good likelihood even if you do help her pay it off, she'll be back into it in no time at all. That's what shopaholics are like, whether it's shoes or handbags that are their poison. With the women I know, it's spa treatments and eating out that get them in trouble.

Whatever you do, don't blow whatever little savings you might have on a shopaholic!

Doesn't have to mean you couldn't share a life with her though... you would simply need different accounts. She can blow her own as much as she likes and leave you out of it.

First I'd like to know if the GF thinks this outrageous spending is a problem. If she does that's a start and maybe she could get some help. Shopping is an addiction and it gives you a little high....very fleeting though so you have to go out and do it again. I have had many a friend who has this problem...the whole hiding packages and sneaking them in the house...it's only going to get worse unless this GF nips it in the bud NOW.

You're wrong about it not being his problem....oh but it is...and if and when they get married....it's going to be his problem and in a big way. Will she cut up her credit cards? Has she been late on payments?
 
Getting into credit card trouble because you're young, a bit naive and a bit impatient to grab all the fun stuff that life has to offer is one thing. You can get over that through the simple strategy of growing up and learning to be more fiscally responsible. Getting into credit card trouble because you're addicted to instant gratification is another. That might take more than ordinary growing up.

It might be that you won't know which category she fits in for a while. Yeah, I know - not good. What I'm saying is that getting into credit card trouble when you're young doesn't necessarily mean this is something she's going to struggle with for the rest of her life, but...

...But it might. It really depends on how deep it goes with her.

So assuming all your mentions of your plans for "some day" don't mean "some day in the next year or two," I think you can take a wait-and-see attitude. Your offer to hold her credit cards for her is a really good idea. But don't get financially involved until you have a better idea what you're in for. That could lead to financial problems and heartbreak.
 
Well, I see it as a good sign that she was the one who brought it up and asked me for help. I think if she didn't see it as a problem, she wouldn't have done that and would simply defend her actions.

As far as I know, she's not late on her payments. It doesn't help though that she pays one card with another, though. Another idea I had for her was to look for either a better paying job, or a second job. She's living at home now with no other bills, so now is the perfect time for her to save up and pay this stuff off.

As far as our plans for the future, it'd probably be another 4 years or so before I'd be popping the question. I need to make sure I'm in a stable place in my career and put a good chunk in some of my student loans before then. I think that will be more than enough time to see if this is just a phase or if there's a more serious problem here.
 
I think maybe the fact that she's living at home and has no other bills to pay is a contributing factor. I have several friends who are living at home in their 20s and working full time. They have all got into the habit of spending all the money they earn on clothes, makeup, handbags etc, because they have nothing else to spend it on! It gets out of control pretty quickly because when their entire paycheck goes on stuff they want it seems like their brain goes all screwy and they start thinking you deserve all this stuff and more - if they want it, they buy it. No guilt because what else do they have to spend it on?

This may sound like a crazy solution, but maybe she should start paying her folks some rent and money for bills? That way maybe she'll begin to understand the value of money, and realise that when you really have something important to spend your wages on, the desire for "stuff" goes out the window.
 
It sounds like she's got a self control and budget problem. She hasn't learned how to manage her finances properly. This could be something that will plague her for the rest of her life (I know several friends who are pushing 30 and haven't matured enough to understand the concept of budgeting). She can't control her impulse to buy makeup and clothes. She can't live within her means. She doesn't pay attention to her credit card balances. All bad signs.

However, if she's willing to get herself in check and you can try to teach her how to manage her finances successfully, perhaps she'll wisen up and pay off her debt without creating more of it. Keep a close eye on this one.
 
This could be a bigger problem that you think. I seem to recall reading that financial issues were among the most common sources of marital discord.
 
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