Compliment + Time = Condescension

[David Henderson]

Better yet, how about a bunch of Klingons who call for war and blood and glory but say, oh, I can't actually go and fight because, well, I have better things to do, and, oh yeah, there's that really nasty hemorrhoid, but I'm with you Klingon soldiers in spirit!

They could even have a snappy motto, something like "I will kill you where you stand! But first... I must visit waste extraction."

davidh

 

[Trent Roman]

I don't think Limbaugh would like it on a Klingon ship. They don't believe in painkillers.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[LightningStorm]

Not that young. Rush started his show back in '88. I was born in '90.

90???? Wow, even I reeled from youngness of that. Born in 78 myself, and I know that is even on the young side to some that post here.

I mean you're 18 possibly even 17 (if you haven't had your birthday yet this year). How old do you think you are? Or perhaps the question is how old do you think the people here are? I'd venture to say you're one of the youngest here (in the Lit forum at least).

 

[Rosalind]

okay, guys, here's a "the post, not the poster" reminder from your friendly moderators.

let's get back on topic, please.

thanks.

 

[TGTheodore]

Yeah, and if Star Trek introduced an alien race that sat on their fat asses all day, shouting their opinions and telling the science officers everything they knew was wrong, how popular would they be?

Damn it, Bill! Now I have to rework my pitch. Thanks a helluva lot.

B.O.T. "Inspired". Now it frequently means the opposite.

--Ted

 

[Trilliam]

Not that young. Rush started his show back in '88. I was born in '90. And actually, I only started listening to him a few years back. As Spock would say, "I exaggerated."

You ARE that young - 3 of my 4 children at least 2 years older than you.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Wow --I'm the youngest one here? Fascinating!

And about Rush --he plays golf (a lot, in case you're wondering). So he isn't exactly a couch potato.

And to those who would make fun of his kind of job... well, why not mock Howard Stern? Or Oprah? Or Keith Olberman? Or Al Sharpton?

Just cuz someone's a right wing doesn't mean he should be treated like anything less than a human being. IDIC, and all that. Even if it's true, still, Star Trek has often frowned upon making fun of people like that. On the shows, even if our heroes disagree with other people, everyone is taken seriously, and treated with respect. And whenever someone isn't being respectful, it is seen as a bad thing. So...lay off the "hemorrhoid" comments, will ya?



On topic: I noticed some discussion of the word "wizard". It's interesting to note that the word, when it first appeared in the English language, meant "Wise Man". Y'know, smartypants. Mr. Brain. That sorta thing. It's probably where we got "Wiz Kid". A BIG compliment.

Anyway, it now means "Bearded Weirdo Magician In A Blue Suit With Stars And Crescents, Complete With Pointed Hat". Or...words to that effect. Sometimes it just means "Magician", but you get the idea. An insult, considering the "Anti-Supernaturalist" attitude held by the average noted scientist.

 

[Trent Roman]

Just cuz someone's a right wing doesn't mean he should be treated like anything less than a human being. IDIC, and all that. Even if it's true, still, Star Trek has often frowned upon making fun of people like that. On the shows, even if our heroes disagree with other people, everyone is taken seriously, and treated with respect. And whenever someone isn't being respectful, it is seen as a bad thing.

It is a myth, promulgated mostly by people who intentionally or otherwise misunderstand the notion, that tolerance must tolerate intolerance, or that inclusivism must include exclusionary viewpoints. It is the different between 'as many as possible' and 'everything', which will never be possible. And in any case, there is nothing in those philosophies that demands accepting things which are objectively incorrect. If I told a Vulcan that 2+2=5, you can bet he or she would correct me, and not shrug and say 'IDIC'.

Anyway, it now means "Bearded Weirdo Magician In A Blue Suit With Stars And Crescents, Complete With Pointed Hat". Or...words to that effect. Sometimes it just means "Magician", but you get the idea. An insult, considering the "Anti-Supernaturalist" attitude held by the average noted scientist.

Yes, damnable scientists and their narrow-minded insistence on 'facts' and 'reality'.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Steve Roby]

So...lay off the "hemorrhoid" comments, will ya?

The point of that remark was that Rush Limbaugh and a lot of other major Republicans, inside the Bush administration and in the media, have been big supporters of other people going to war. Whether it's Vietnam or Iraq, they're for the war but they really can't be bothered to put their own asses on the line. It's not an insult, it's a commentary on conservative hypocrisy.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

okay, guys, here's a "the post, not the poster" reminder from your friendly moderators.

let's get back on topic, please.

thanks.

Just a friendly reminder to everyone.

 

[Biggshow]

okay, guys, here's a "the post, not the poster" reminder from your friendly moderators.

let's get back on topic, please.

thanks.

Just a friendly reminder to everyone.

Interesting...

Which got me a big laugh from a friend who saw immediately that I was using the word to avoid hurting someone's feelings. It helped that I said it very Spocklike.

 

[RookieBatman]

So...lay off the "hemorrhoid" comments, will ya?

The point of that remark was that Rush Limbaugh and a lot of other major Republicans, inside the Bush administration and in the media, have been big supporters of other people going to war. Whether it's Vietnam or Iraq, they're for the war but they really can't be bothered to put their own asses on the line. It's not an insult, it's a commentary on conservative hypocrisy.

How many Democratic politicians are currently serving in the military? Does Bill Maher take off from his show to go fight over there?
I don't understand how this argument is valid, how you can consider that Republican politicians are hypocritical for not fighting themselves, when politicians haven't actually been fighting since the Middle Ages.

In your opinion, what action could they take that would make them not seem hypocritical?

 

[Geoff]

In your opinion, what action could they take that would make them not seem hypocritical?

Erm... Bring the troops home?

(Just like Prime Minister al-Maliki is asking us to?)

 

[Trent Roman]

How many Democratic politicians are currently serving in the military? Does Bill Maher take off from his show to go fight over there?

What does that have to do with anything? Steve's comments was about war hawks who don't actually fight. On the flipside, it would be hypocritical if a person opposed to military action then goes off to fight, as you puzzlingly suggest.

I don't understand how this argument is valid, how you can consider that Republican politicians are hypocritical for not fighting themselves, when politicians haven't actually been fighting since the Middle Ages.

And this makes it right because...? Does the age of a particular hypocrisy eventually inure it to being duplicitious and self-serving?

In your opinion, what action could they take that would make them not seem hypocritical?

They could stop war-mongering, or they could pick up a rifle themselves and follow-through on their vitriolic expoundings instead of getting other people killed on their behest. Either way, peace for the rest of us.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Good grief, people. I guess you forgot the term "stay on topic" today.

With apologies to Ted for his unique topic, I'm closing this.