Communicating With Aliens

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Dryson, Aug 30, 2020.

  1. Dryson

    Dryson Commodore Commodore

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    Basic Interstellar Communication and Language 101- Heart Probe Mission
    Sending the World Ark into Space
    Our method of detecting signals from alien life as well as sending signals into space trying to communicate with aliens, is all wrong.
    The main communication factor that you are missing is one of the number one aspect for all life across the Universe. The beating heart. All life has to have a beating heart. The heart develops over the time it is in the womb to childhood and then adult hood and then into old age and finally death. During the sequence of the heart it will beat differently based on the gravitational influences effecting the planet as well as the heart being either female or male.
    Alien life isn't going to send a complex series of lines containing a text message. The first alien contact will be the sound of the alien heart over the speaker that has been digitized and transmitted into space. We often think that sight, is how we communicate first and foremost. The first type of communication that life had with the Universe wasn't sight, it was sound. The sound of the beating heart. People are connected with other forms of life on the planet, even if that life is a tree or fish. We make a connection to the life because it has a beating heart. Not much emphasis is put on saving rocks from being crush compared to people saving trees. Why? Because the tree has a heart that beats.
    With an alien civilization having the same night time viewing equipment that we do, such as a 127mm Star Max + 20mm eyepiece/90 diagonal + LG7 ThinQ camera phone, there would also be similarities in the background artifacts that are created when taking a photo set on 1/3 sec and 3200 ISO. One such artifact that is commonly found is a heart shaped artifact. I'm not certain what causes the heart shaped artifact but the fact that it appears numerous times in one image is exciting. If I am seeing the same heart shape in a telescope that an alien is seeing in their 127mm Star Max or comparable telescope then the heart is once again the link that draws two alien species together.
    How should the communication pattern work?
    Rather simply. First collect heart rate data on humans from the time the first heartbeat in the womb is heard until the last heartbeat of a person. Different people can be used. One set of data would be female and the other set would be male. The data would then be sent out in packets starting with the heart beat in the womb, through toddler and adolescence and so forth. The pulse should first start off with a loud thump of static or the sound of the Ultrasound being used in-between each beat, some type of noise that will create a pause, if only sightly. Then the toddler set, adolescent set, etc. If an alien civilization is out there and they intercept the signal, when they listen to the broadcast their subconsciousness should immediately translate the sound into that of a beating heart.
    When they begin to pair the heart beats up with their own species heartbeat patterns, they will begin to realize that each set of signals is comparable to the heart beats of children in the womb, toddlers, adolescence, etc. The alien species will then be able to better create a medical model of the alien life sending the heart beat message as will we be able to create a medical image of how the aliens look based on their heartbeat message.
    A probe placed somewhere between Jupiter and Saturn on an orbit around the Sun that would be able to receive a signal back as well as determining the overall clarity of the Heartbeat Signal sent to and from Earth would help in future missions of creating better antennas to receive deep space signals.
    Other heartbeats that could be collected to paint a picture of life one Earth would be:
    1. Turtle, Cow, Deer, Wolf - Land (Included would be sloth/Koala Bear, squirrels, snakes
    2. Turkey, Bluebird, Sparrow, Buzzard, Eagle - Air
    3. Minnow, Bluegill, Bass, Porpoise, Orca, Great White Shark, Moby Dick, Hump Back Whale, Blue Whale. - Sea
    Each type of animal has a heartbeat pattern that is consistent with the environment that they primarily thrive in. Sea,Air or Land, all generates a unique set of heartbeat patterns that are separate from all others. Therefore an alien species would be able to determine the height at which birds are able to fly in the atmosphere compared to ours or how deep the aliens are when they compare a squid heartbeat to the heartbeat patterns of one of their deep sea creatures.
    The aliens would then send similar heart beat patterns back to us for us to match up with the heartbeats of similar animals on Earth.
    More importantly two heart beats from different planets will breach the distance of time and space, faster than the speed of light.

    Does anybody else have a better way of communicating with an alien species? I'd really like to hear it.
     
  2. Crazyewok

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    I would say communicate in farts.

    What is more universal than gas escaping from a biological orifice
     
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  3. 'Q'

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    You assume the aliens have ears and a heart. Can you shown me those on a plant?
     
  4. Serveaux

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    Not all living creatures have hearts.

    Next.
     
  5. Serveaux

    Serveaux Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    Pretty sure the first signal detected from an extraterrestrial civilization will be porn.


     
  6. Silvercrest

    Silvercrest Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Where is this located on the tree?

    Your posting history strongly suggests that you do not.
     
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  7. Finn

    Finn Bad Batch of TrekBBS Admiral

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    Just...wow
     
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  8. BillJ

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    Could've been snarky and disrespectful, but I chose the path of taking it seriously.

    They would still be carried on radio waves (in our case, based on our technology), which are limited to the speed of light.

    Since we don't know of any extraterrestrial species, we have no way of knowing the "best way" to communicate with them. We won't be able to figure that out until we are exposed to them. I still think math is likely the quickest way to find a common point to begin building a dialogue.
     
  9. Santaman

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    The only thing that I would use to communicate with aliens is to launch thousands of satellites, each fitted with a big sign, that sign would read: GET OFF MY LAWN!
     
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  10. BillJ

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    If they cared enough to come all this way, I imagine they would ignore such signs. :eek:
     
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  11. Santaman

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    ^^ Good point.. hmm.. oh! oh! I have an idea.. I just put the face of Chuck Norris on it AND Clint Eastwood.. yeah.. that will scare the crap out of them MWUHAHAHA!:evil:
     
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  12. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Even better, just put any two members of this site on a loop arguing about Star Trek. It will scare away pretty much any lifeform that ever dreamed of communicating with us. :rofl:
     
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    I like that.. yesss.. I like that.. :evil:
     
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    I'm simply convinced that Dryson is off his meds again...
     
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    I want what he's having.
     
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    There are around 40 undeciphered writing systems from the 7th millennium BC onwards, created by human beings, that we have no idea how to read. We cannot effectively communicate with dolphins or whales (whose brains are larger than ours), and those animals that do seem to understand some of what we are saying - e.g. dogs, apes etc have learned to communicate using our languages using signs and pressure activated audio mats or screens using words and pictures. These animals have better language skills than us!!

    I suspect any aliens that want to talk to us will have to learn our language first before any communication could take place. :)
     
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    "Oh, no, not again."
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    "CHECK PLEASE!"
     
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    A rhythmic beat could mean anything. Mathematical constants require abstract reasoning to compute. That’s what would let them know it’s an attempt at communication.

    Something that is universally the same anywhere and any aliens capable of picking up the signal must have already computed.
     
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  20. Dryson

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    A sparrow and a Perch are about the same size and have rhythmic heartbeats associated with the environment in which they live in.

    The heart beat of Sparrow would be very different than the heartbeat of a Perch which is due to how each animal takes in oxygen from the medium that it is in. Since water and air, both have oxygen which is vital to life on Earth, an alien species would be able to determine that the heart beat signals that they were detecting from space had two variables. One variable would be that the signal is consistent with the heart beat of animals that take in oxygen from air while the second variable would be that the signal is consistent with the heart of animals that take in oxygen from the water.

    Both processes equate to producing oxygen but the actual process to create oxygen would be consistent with producing oxygen that stems from an airborne life form and the other from an aquatic based lifeform. Both would have very telling similarities of either being air or water based oxygen production facilities.