Comments From Someone Who Has Seen Into Darkness

[Shaka Zulu]

I agree TNG was FILLED with pretentious nonsense, all the pontificating by Picard. The original series was able to do more episode styles than the TNG cast because in TOS, characters were allowed to have flaws. TOS could tell a morality tale, or have a msg and have fun at the same time. I find TNG to be the most dated out of all the series, with its moral equivalence BS. TNG had some really good episodes as well but by the time they got to the movies, they changed the dynamics of the characters to make Picard some sort of lame action hero which he never was on the show. -Chris

Most of this is because Roddenberry was allowed to be writing for TV again in the first place. During the movies with the original cast, he was kicked upstairs by Bennett and the Paramount brass after TMP, which is why the movies were somewhat better while still being Star Trek in form and message (The Voyage Home being the best example, with its plot about ecological issues.) Of course, after Paramount decided there was to be a new TV show, Roddenberry had to be back as the creator. But just because he was a great creator back in the '60s doesn't mean he'll be a great creator in the '80s, and so we got what we got with TNG (as much as I liked it.)

 

[BillJ]

Of course, after Paramount decided there was to be a new TV show, Roddenberry had to be back as the creator. But just because he was a great creator back in the '60s doesn't mean he'll be a great creator in the '80s, and so we got what we got with TNG (as much as I liked it.)

Roddenberry wasn't the first choice of Paramount to create a new series, more like fourth or fifth behind people like Leonard Nimoy and Greg Strangis. IIRC.

 

[Ryan8bit]

^As discussed above, it could be in comparison to Star Trek on television.

Which is dumb.

 

[Relayer1]

Her friend gave it 3 stars out 5 as a Star Trek movie, but 4/5 as a normal movie.

Because Trek movies are normally better, thus the bar is set higher ?

Sadly not : Trek 3, Trek 5, The Next Gen movies...

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Of course, after Paramount decided there was to be a new TV show, Roddenberry had to be back as the creator. But just because he was a great creator back in the '60s doesn't mean he'll be a great creator in the '80s, and so we got what we got with TNG (as much as I liked it.)

Roddenberry wasn't the first choice of Paramount to create a new series, more like fourth or fifth behind people like Leonard Nimoy and Greg Strangis. IIRC.

How did Nimoy get to be considered for that top job? That's amazing (if true) and it's too bad that he didn't get to do that.

OTOH, we can be glad that Greg Strangis didn't get control of Star Trek, considering what a mess he made of the War Of The Worlds TV show.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Because they were looking for a name to attach to the series to give it some cachet with people who knew Star Trek. They talked to Bennett as well.