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Columbia NX-02

Would these be some good potential NX-class names?

NX-04 Discovery (Space Shuttle)
NX-05 Atlantis (Space Shuttle)
NX-06 Endeavour (Space Shuttle)
NX-07 Pathfinder (prototype shuttle)
NX-08 Constellation (Constellation Program)
NX-09 Avenger (like the Mirror Universe version)
NX-10 Trieste (submersible that went to the bottom of the Marianas Trench)
NX-11 Apollo (Apollo 11)
NX-12 Orion (NASA spacecraft
NX-13 Colbert (just for laughs)
NX-14 Prometheus (Greek titan who gave fire to mankind)
 
Leaving aside the somewhat unfair dismissal of the differences that were found in the Russian orbiter design (and those of the Energiya booster and the AN-225 shuttle transport -all three of which were,sadly, denied the chance to truly shine), Buran did make it into orbit in 1988...

...which is more than can be said for OV-101, I might add.

Fair enough on Buran, though it was an unmanned orbit.

True - but it was still quite a feat, not least since it, ironically, launched in a blizzard, and getting an orbiter to make a successful automated landing is a trickier feat than having a capsule know when to pop its parachutes.

But it seems to me that the Soviet shuttle design was an obvious attempt to copy and improve the US shuttle design. Energia seems like it was an actual accomplishment, on the other hand.
Well, Buran herself had its differences - not least the increased cargo capacity, due to the Energia doing all of the lifting into orbit, but also a number of minor differences in things like the layout of its ceramic heat shield (which didn't have the RCC panels that caused disaster for Columbia) and the aforementioned automater system that the Shuttle didn't get a version of until 2006.

Of course, I'm weary of naming anything after vessels of an institutionally corrupt, tyrannical government responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler in the first place.
I'd sooner think of it as honouring the expertise and experience of the scientists and engineers involved in the Soviet/Russian space program - who had been breaking the mould since the days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin - and whose legacy lives on in the present-day RFSA, not least in the Russian components to be found in the International Space Station.


The whole point of the version of space exploration that Trek is supposed to be about is that we are all in this together - and honouring the Russian contribution to the exploration of space should be part of that.

And not just by putting a certain bridge officer who (used to) look like a younger version of a notorious Psi Corps agent on the bridge of the NCC-1701!


Oh, as an aside, an NX named after the Kliper would be pretty neat, too... and hopefully the Russians will be able to get that particular vessel into service in time for it to become part of United Earth's history!

Would these be some good potential NX-class names?

I'd like Buran to be NX-07, and either Ptichka or Kliper as NX-08 - with the other as NX-10.

(And maybe Buran's warp engine could be nicknamed Energia!)
 
NX-13 Colbert (just for laughs)

I second that! However, I don't think there would be that many NX-class ships. After all, they were prototypes (and took pretty long to build to boot) and the Enterprise itself was decommissioned only 10 years after its launch. I've only seen TATV once but I remember there were hints the ship had become obsolete due to new developments in ship/engine design.
 
Of course, I'm weary of naming anything after vessels of an institutionally corrupt, tyrannical government responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler in the first place.

lot of people used to live on the land where the USA is now, what happened to them? All governments have caused deaths, but Space Programs move beyond the political machinations. "For all mankind"
 
Of course, I'm weary of naming anything after vessels of an institutionally corrupt, tyrannical government responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler in the first place.
lot of people used to live on the land where the USA is now, what happened to them? All governments have caused deaths, but Space Programs move beyond the political machinations. "For all mankind"

Indeed, I'm sure if you tallied up all the deaths caused by Europeans going and settling in other continents it will be far more than Communist Russia and the Third Reich combined. So does that mean that we shouldn't name and thus honour NASA endeavours to space as a vast number of Americans are descended from the colonisation efforts of England, Spain, France and the Dutch?
 
Of course, I'm weary of naming anything after vessels of an institutionally corrupt, tyrannical government responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler in the first place.
lot of people used to live on the land where the USA is now, what happened to them? All governments have caused deaths, but Space Programs move beyond the political machinations. "For all mankind"

Indeed, I'm sure if you tallied up all the deaths caused by Europeans going and settling in other continents it will be far more than Communist Russia and the Third Reich combined. So does that mean that we shouldn't name and thus honour NASA endeavours to space as a vast number of Americans are descended from the colonisation efforts of England, Spain, France and the Dutch?

There's a big difference between a government that has caused deaths and a government that was essentially designed to kill anyone who didn't support the head of state.
 
There's a big difference between a government that has caused deaths and a government that was essentially designed to kill anyone who didn't support the head of state.

Which I am fully aware of.

I am also assuming you know that the original tech used by both the Americans and the Russians to get into space was originally designed for V2 rockets which were used by the Nazi's to level vast areas of European cities.
 
There's a big difference between a government that has caused deaths and a government that was essentially designed to kill anyone who didn't support the head of state.

Which I am fully aware of.

I am also assuming you know that the original tech used by both the Americans and the Russians to get into space was originally designed for V2 rockets which were used by the Nazi's to level vast areas of European cities.

Yes, and I can't say I'm overly happy about that fact, either.
 
It would be nice to see the latter craft honoured, alongside the American ones.
If it were up to me, I'd name them in this order:

NX-03 Challenger
NX-04 Discovery
NX-05 Atlantis
NX-06 Buran
NX-07 Ptichka
NX-8 Endeavour

Name the NX-series craft after the shuttles in the order in which they flew (or were built, in the case of Ptichka).
 
NX-03 will be named Challenger, according to the novel Kobayashi Maru.

I saw that, alright - I guess I was wondering just how far the NX-naming convention would go (ie to cover the Buran and Ptichka, too.)

If it were up to me, I'd name them in this order:

NX-03 Challenger
NX-04 Discovery
NX-05 Atlantis
NX-06 Buran
NX-07 Ptichka
NX-08 Endeavour

Name the NX-series craft after the shuttles in the order in which they flew (or were built, in the case of Ptichka).

That could work!

I'd love to see a mission patch for a prospective NX-class Buran...
 
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