Collars or No Collars?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by PicardSpeedo, Nov 4, 2018.

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Collars or No Collars?

  1. Collars

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  2. No collars

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  1. Roundabout

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    At least Picard had the good sense not to have worn the jacket over jacket. It would have looked stupid if he had worn that captain's jacket over his standard uniform jacket.
     
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  2. Armus

    Armus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The best Captains Jacket was Sisko's unzipped standard uniform.

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  3. Roundabout

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    Are those images from DS9 "Rocks and Shoals"?

    IIRC, the entire (crash) landing party wore their jackets the same way, open in front, during combat.

    I wonder how many layers of shirts were worn under those jackets.
     
  4. Arpy

    Arpy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    He’s wearing four layers. Jacket, vest, shirt, and undershirt. No wonder he’s sweating.
     
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  5. David cgc

    David cgc Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    IIRC, wasn't it also shown at one point that both the vest and the outer layer of Sisko's uniform have their own commbadge? I remember we saw that Kirk's jacket and vest each had their own badge in Generations (which, again, why is he wearing both at the same time? Didn't we all see TWOK where they explicitly switch jackets?)
     
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  6. Arpy

    Arpy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That’s all pretty silly IMHO. They should be wearing one layer of super-teflon that’s waterproof and doesn’t stain, maintains your inner temperature regardless of outside heat or cold, and that both won’t tear and can come apart (like Ro’s did) from a seamless opening in the front or in any segments you like, including bandages.

    All that, without even mentioning auto-camouflage, homing beacon, internal communicator, medical diagnostics, and SIRI.
     
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  7. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    How many layers? The Sisko must have been boiling.
     
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  8. c0rnedfr0g

    c0rnedfr0g Commodore Commodore

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    At least he didn't also have make-up and hair to deal with.
     
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  9. Toby Meyer

    Toby Meyer Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    The part that gets ignored is the "piping" on the black shoulder area of the uniforms. I'm glad they were removed.
     
  10. olysounder89

    olysounder89 Ensign Newbie

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    I always wondered if this was done to show this is what is always worn for Starfleet.

    Side question though... I don't recall on ever seeing an early DS9/Voy uniform with a vest. Was it just the jacket and the longsleeve undershirt?
     
  11. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Commodore Commodore

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    Please, please, don't interrupt this thread with practicality.
     
  12. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Commodore Commodore

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    Sigh. I'll try this again with bold letters.

    The women versions was a strange fit and I couldn't understand why there wasn't a fit which would apply a skirt or short sleeves I might add.
     
  13. Armus

    Armus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I believe so, just the turtle neck and the jumpsuit.

    Personally I think both versions of the DS9 uniform could have used a belt, and the visible seam zipper, like Admiral Ross's uniform.

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  14. Tosk

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    I still don't understand the distinction you're making, but it's probably my fault. I'm very sigh-worthy.
     
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  15. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Commodore Commodore

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    It's not an outfit appropriate for a woman or a man IMO but for a skirt it should be either smaller in the mid-section and apply the dress jacket with a smaller or thinner belt so it would look... somewhat decent but I don't have clue why the heck the Hornblower-esque outfit was decided for the cast. How does a person breath wearing those impractical outfits, especially when overweight???
     
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  16. Nakita Akita

    Nakita Akita Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Well, hot yes, "boiling" might be an overstatement.
     
  17. PureCrimson

    PureCrimson Commander Red Shirt

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    The badges look a lot better on collars. I was thinking this same thing the last time I watched it, to be honest.

    The only part of the season 1 uniforms I liked more than the later ones was the pin-striping on top. I'm guilty of liking lots of pointless color lines on my clothing.
     
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  18. 1moreRobot

    1moreRobot Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    As a youngster, I thought the collared uniforms were a big improvement. I remember how annoyed I was when the only Playmates actions figures I could find were the early season ones (“collars not stripes!” I’d always tell my mom when she was out shopping).

    Looking back, the men’s collared uniforms reflect too much of the oversized, unfitted baggy look of the 90s for my taste. Plus, I have a soft spot for first and second season TNG now, when it seemed like more of an adventure into the unknown, so there’s a pleasant nostalgia factor for those early uniforms.

    When GE made that robots commercial a few years ago, I was glad that they opted for early Data in spandex.
     
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  19. Roundabout

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    The admiral uniform that Jameson wore had a really nice look.

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    It didn't have a collar, but it had that sash. I don't know if the sash was a separate accessory or if it was sewed onto the shirt. In any case, it was stylish. Btw, it looked so much better than Worf's tacky sash.

    The gold trims on the sleeves, at the edge of the sash, and that borders the black and red portions of the shirt were nice touches. Like the sash, they were not only decorative but gave the uniform the look of authority.
     
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  20. Lynx

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    I like the TNG uniforms most of all Star trek uniforms. One coud really see which department the crewmembers belonged to. However the DS9 and Voyager uniforms were OK.

    But I've never understood why security had the same uniforms as engineering. Security should have been an own department with separate colors. Dark green or maybe violet or bright orange.
     
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