Closure on captain Picard before Patrick dies?

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Captain Triggered, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. Paradise City

    Paradise City Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    AGT was actually configured as a finale with a poignant send off to boot. That'll do. Frankly I could've done without Shatner and Nimoy being shoveled into anymore movies after TUC. I'm not categorically opposed to Stewart appearing as a distant ancestor of Picard, Stewart is still a very active actor. But I don't need it nor do I expect it.
     
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  2. James T Kirk

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    Picard a beast. Would love to see him again.
     
  3. Paul Weaver

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    Five-card stud, nothing wild. And the sky's the limit.

    Anything after than is an alternate universe as far as I'm concerned.


    TNG, DS9 and Voyager all got end scenes. TOS didn't, until TUC.

    ENT's final scene (the 3 captain montage) was a great scene to end that era of trek on, but Ent did deserve better.
     
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  4. Ar-Pharazon

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  5. Shikarnov

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    For me, Captain Picard's story arc finished even before AGT. After that, the character became quite different -- softer, even broken. I certainly wouldn't like to what became of him years after he was hot-wheeling around at the beginning of Insurrection. I'm sure he would be unrecognizable.
     
  6. Mattadd

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    I would absolutely love to see what happened to Picard, and Stewart would make it amazing, as he always has with just about any script he's given.
     
  7. johnar

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    I wish Sir Patrick well. Sir Shatner well. Etc. While I'd like to see as many Trek veteran actors once more for the road or for some pass down to the next generation of Trek, it won't break my heart if this doesn't happen (or if they turn down offers to do so). I am hoping some innovative ideas come about that catch on like full phaser fire with audiences. I'd hate to see it all die with the Baby Boom generation. :(
     
  8. N-121973

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    After recently watching all 13 films I came up with an idea that could potentially breathe new life into the film franchise in which Star Trek (1)4 is a crossover between the Kelvinverse cast and TNG. Basically I've come to the conclusion that the reboot is flawed because of all the major events that will now unfold very differently because of Nero. V'Ger, the Whale Probe. These two incidents alone are unaffected by Nero and the Kirk and co of this timeline are very different people to the ones who faced off these threats. What I'd like to see is a story where the events of Nero's meddling begin to interfere somehow with the Prime Universe. The 24th century portion of the story would be set at the time of the supernova that ultimately destroys Romulus and threatens the galaxy (who came up with the idea of a single supernova threatening the galaxy?). Picard is still a captain and in command of the USS Enterprise E, about to retire from Starfleet to live his remaining years as a vintner at the Picard vineyards in LeBarre following his brother & nephew's deaths. He is lamenting the fact that his career has stalled and he will finish his career as captain whilst Will Riker is an admiral and his superior. The crew including B4 gather aboard the ship for Picard's imminent retirement when they have to head off to deal with the supernova explosion and its aftermath. In the Kelvinverse 23rd century Kirk and co also have to deal with the consequences to the timeline and somehow through 'Star Trek' the two crews from two different times & universes somehow work together and stop Romulus' destruction as well as transforming the Kelvinverse back into the Prime Universe.
    The final scenes would then be in the 24th century Picard walks into his quarters one last time to find a package on his bed from Riker. We the audience don't see what it is Riker's bought Picard to wear only that he has a grin on his face. The scene shifts to the Enterprise E's equivalent of Ten Forward where Picard, now an admiral attends his retirement ceremony hands over command of the ship to his successor. Meanwhile in the 23rd century we see Kirk in his quarters. He's talking to his father via subspace on a monitor. The camera pulls back to reveal Kirk's uniform is a little different to what he's worn in the rest of the film. He finishes his conversation and is asked to report to the bridge. Kirk leaves and walks down a corridor that is rectangular rather than circular with doors in bright primary colours. He enters the turbolift and emerges onto a bridge that looks like the one from the classic show albeit with 21st century detailing. Sulu is at helm, Uhura at comms, Spock is in the centre seat which he vacates upon Kirk's arrival and returns to his science station and starts looking through a hooded viewer. Kirks takes his seat and over the address intercraft speaks to first McCoy and then Scotty to check in with them. We see each in their respective domains, again looking like the sickbay and engineering of old with 21st century film-quality sets. We see Kirk giving orders and with the 'Star Trek' fanfare playing in the background the camera pans up through the main bridge down just like in the opening scene of 'The Cage' only in reverse and instead of seeing the Enterprise A introduced at the end of 'Star Trek: Beyond' and presumably used through this film, we see the classic ship, again with 21st century movie-quality detailing flying off at warp. What this does is give the producers two alternative (or complimentary) film options for the future: films in the 24th century aboard the Enterprise E under Picard's successor or 23rd century films with Chris Pine & co now set in the prime universe. The movie poster could have the Beyond and First Contact Enterprises on it with the tag line 'TO SAVE ALL OUR FUTURES THEY MUST SACRIFICE THEIR PAST'.
     
  9. Doom Shepherd

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    That's not a bug, it's a feature. Though it probably does mean that NuTrekNextGen (if such a thing were to ever happen) would be entirely different... although by all logical rights, the Mirror Universe and all parallels should also be totally different, but look how that works out.
     
  10. Ethros

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    "Don't. Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship. Because while you're there... you can make a difference."

    I like to think Picard stayed Captain of the Enterprise for as long as he possibly could.
     
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  11. Phoenix219

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    Since its just a fantasy, I'd end that crossover with Shatner, a CGI'd Nimoy and Kelley, the remaining 3 supporting cast members, and an off screen Scotty voice, reminiscing about something, on board the "A" as its being inducted into a Fleet Museum or something, set 20 years after TUC, showing that Generations and/or the "B" disaster was averted and they all survived into old age in their proper time.
     
  12. uniderth

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    We need to have all the actors reshoot the "future" scenes from All Good Things. Then edit it into a special edition of the episode with the actors actually looking twenty five years older.
     
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  13. at Quark's

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    I agree with others that AGT was the sendoff for Picard, even though the movies happened "later".

    After the series, the Picard character gradually changed. In Generations, he's still recognisably Picard to me, even though it has its fair share of action scenes. Figured something must have gone wrong around the time of First Contact, even though I like that movie. In the two movies after that -- he simply isn't really Picard anymore to me.
     
  14. Paul Weaver

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    I read a theory that the grief from René and Robert's death changed him and took him the next 3 films to recover. Especially if he also blames himself for the loss of the D, which there's a good argument for.
     
  15. Phoenix219

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    Generations was full of absolutely pointless deaths.
     
  16. King Daniel Beyond

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    I really want Sir Patrick Stewart to show up on The Orville as a famous former starship captain whom Captain Mercer absolutely worships. And Stewart isn't impressed.
     
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  17. Kor

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    Personally, I've seen enough of Picard for one lifetime. I prefer to go back and explore the 23rd century.

    Kor
     
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