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Clean underwear a must: Jesus coming in May!

Of course I'll have clean underwear on. But can someine give me a bit nore of the dress code for something like this? Should I be casual or more formal? Are jeans appropriate for meeting one's maker? Should we be formal, I mean it is the Big Guy himself?

A better question: If we have to queue up with 6 billion other people to meet this dude, it's going to be the longest autograph line of all time. No way we'll get to the front in just one day.
Depending on one's interpretation, it might be a lot more than 6 billion.

Some think since time isn't linear, we all essentially reach Heaven at the same time. I don't know the Bible well enough to comment on that, though.
 
My fundie college roommate said that everyone who ever lived is judged at once.

Me: "So where have they been since they died?"

FCR: "In heaven or hell, depending on the judgement."

Me: "Wait, but they haven't been judged yet."

FCR: "Oh but they have. On Judgement Day, they will be called before God to receive their 'official' judgement."

Me: "Oh."

lol
 
How does God know but Jesus doesn't? Aren't they both God? It's so confusing :(
The idea of the three-in-one Trinity didn't come into favor until well after the original apostles died off. When Jesus asked Peter who he was, Peter answered "Thou art the son of God", and Jesus praised him for his correct understanding. Jesus did not correct him and claim to be an avatar or image of God the Father; we have no other option but to understand that he was the literal son of God, just as Peter believed. Indeed, if Jesus was the Father himself, then the sacrifice at his death would not have been a sacrifice, but a faking of one's own death. When Jesus claims that "My father and I are one", we can interpret this to mean "united; one in purpose". Therefore, no, The Father and the Son can indeed have distinct knowledge.
 
The world will no longer be able to sustain any life in about 500 million years (pesky sun!) and a few billion years after that the sun will probably vaporize it to make sure that nothing remains.. (the sun again that bastard!) :vulcan:

As for the world ending in 2011 or 2012? don't be redicilous, the can of beans I bought tell me they're good to eat until 7 may 2013..
 
How does God know but Jesus doesn't? Aren't they both God? It's so confusing :(
The idea of the three-in-one Trinity didn't come into favor until well after the original apostles died off. When Jesus asked Peter who he was, Peter answered "Thou art the son of God", and Jesus praised him for his correct understanding. Jesus did not correct him and claim to be an avatar or image of God the Father; we have no other option but to understand that he was the literal son of God, just as Peter believed. Indeed, if Jesus was the Father himself, then the sacrifice at his death would not have been a sacrifice, but a faking of one's own death. When Jesus claims that "My father and I are one", we can interpret this to mean "united; one in purpose". Therefore, no, The Father and the Son can indeed have distinct knowledge.

So Christianity is polythiestic?

Sounds like they're trying to have their cake, eat it too, and then ask for a second slice.

On the sacrifice issue, you CAN sacrifice yourself, so just because Jesus is God woudln't nullify the sacrifice.

What DOES nullify the sacrifice is the lack of a sacrifice. To call Jesus death a sacrifice is like going only 3 days without smoking and saying you've quit while puffing away on day 4.
 
How does God know but Jesus doesn't? Aren't they both God? It's so confusing :(
The idea of the three-in-one Trinity didn't come into favor until well after the original apostles died off. When Jesus asked Peter who he was, Peter answered "Thou art the son of God", and Jesus praised him for his correct understanding. Jesus did not correct him and claim to be an avatar or image of God the Father; we have no other option but to understand that he was the literal son of God, just as Peter believed. Indeed, if Jesus was the Father himself, then the sacrifice at his death would not have been a sacrifice, but a faking of one's own death. When Jesus claims that "My father and I are one", we can interpret this to mean "united; one in purpose". Therefore, no, The Father and the Son can indeed have distinct knowledge.

So Christianity is polythiestic?
Sure. Elements of Christianity were drawn from earlier religions. In addition to the Trinity, there are the saints; where the earlier religions had a god for this and that, Christianity substitutes a saint.
 
When Jesus asked Peter who he was, Peter answered "Thou art the son of God", and Jesus praised him for his correct understanding.
I'm sure he was speaking Old English, too.
Would you like to add anything to the discussion?
Why, of course. For instance: bad Old English translations from mismatched Greek sources which were ultimately redacted after everybody involved was dead, and which arguably reported verbatim something that was presumably said in Aramaic between two people who may have existed in Roman Palestine around two thousand years ago are rather weak for a book that is assumed to be the definitive source of theology. Just an example, of course.

I'm open to religious discussion, but the "KJV is the only authoritative Word of God" people are on a theological dead end.
 
How does God know but Jesus doesn't? Aren't they both God? It's so confusing :(
The idea of the three-in-one Trinity didn't come into favor until well after the original apostles died off. When Jesus asked Peter who he was, Peter answered "Thou art the son of God", and Jesus praised him for his correct understanding. Jesus did not correct him and claim to be an avatar or image of God the Father; we have no other option but to understand that he was the literal son of God, just as Peter believed. Indeed, if Jesus was the Father himself, then the sacrifice at his death would not have been a sacrifice, but a faking of one's own death. When Jesus claims that "My father and I are one", we can interpret this to mean "united; one in purpose". Therefore, no, The Father and the Son can indeed have distinct knowledge.

So Christianity is polythiestic?

Sounds like they're trying to have their cake, eat it too, and then ask for a second slice.
It depends on how you define polytheism. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost aren't competing for attention like polytheist gods, but working together to effect the Father's plan of salvation. What I described is the LDS/Mormon perspective. Catholics and most Protestants would disagree (because they follow the Council of Nicaea). Surely God can create a son if he wishes, who is like him in almost every way, and also [a] God.

On the sacrifice issue, you CAN sacrifice yourself, so just because Jesus is God woudln't nullify the sacrifice.

What DOES nullify the sacrifice is the lack of a sacrifice. To call Jesus death a sacrifice is like going only 3 days without smoking and saying you've quit while puffing away on day 4.
Jesus' sacrifice was not merely 36+ hours of death (sundown Friday to sunrise Sunday ~ 36 hours); he experienced the same pain, anguish, and guilt that every human who ever lived, and ever would live, experienced--something incomprehensible to us.
 
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In addition to the Trinity, there are the saints; where the earlier religions had a god for this and that, Christianity substitutes a saint.
Not every Christian sect believes in the traditional concept of saints; there's no Biblical support for them. In New Testament times, the word saint was applied to every follower of Christ.
 
For instance: bad Old English translations from mismatched Greek sources which were ultimately redacted after everybody involved was dead, and which arguably reported verbatim something that was presumably said in Aramaic between two people who may have existed in Roman Palestine around two thousand years ago are rather weak for a book that is assumed to be the definitive source of theology. Just an example, of course.

I'm open to religious discussion, but the "KJV is the only authoritative Word of God" people are on a theological dead end.
I have no argument here--our scriptures are only as authoritative as far as they have been transcribed correctly and fairly. Each transcription effort had its own motives and quality control. The Dead Sea Scroll fragments have provided some insight into how well-preserved the books of the Old Testament are. It's a fascinating subject. As for the New Testament, the constituent books were cherry-picked at the time it was compiled, and we can't be sure how much material was lost.
 
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