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The Master was introduced at the beginning of the season with Terror of the Autons[/ I] (also Jo's first appearance) and also appears in The Mind of Evil prior to The Claws of Axos. All of season 8 features The Master as the main adversary, usually working alongside some other force.

I could have sworn Terror of the Autons was already out on DVD, but I just discovered, much to my surprise, that The Claws of Axos is the only season 8 serial out on DVD.

I completely agree about Jo. She is my single least favorite companion. Not even Rose is as bad as her.
 
Be sure to look out for the accidental shot of Katy Manning's purple knickers, won't you. There was a bit of a wardrobe malfunction..
 
Be sure to look out for the accidental shot of Katy Manning's purple knickers, won't you. There was a bit of a wardrobe malfunction..

Oh now you're just messing with us. Why would I be looking at a girl's knickers? Now if you'll excuse me, I have to watch that scene of Jamie on the ladder with the camera facing right up his kilt. :bolian:
 
Most of the JNT era leaves me somewhat cold, but I don't mind Mawdryn.. so much. It's certainly better than the story that followed, Terminus IMO. And anything with the Brig in it ain't so bad..

Those stories are fine (other than the abysmal Black Guardian). They just suffer from the padding. It would be interesting to isolate and assemble all of the clips of people wandering around on space ships from both serials and string them together. You'd probably have at least an hour or so of (very dull) material.
 
Be sure to look out for the accidental shot of Katy Manning's purple knickers, won't you. There was a bit of a wardrobe malfunction..

Oh now you're just messing with us. Why would I be looking at a girl's knickers? Now if you'll excuse me, I have to watch that scene of Jamie on the ladder with the camera facing right up his kilt. :bolian:

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Most of the JNT era leaves me somewhat cold, but I don't mind Mawdryn.. so much. It's certainly better than the story that followed, Terminus IMO. And anything with the Brig in it ain't so bad..

Those stories are fine (other than the abysmal Black Guardian). They just suffer from the padding. It would be interesting to isolate and assemble all of the clips of people wandering around on space ships from both serials and string them together. You'd probably have at least an hour or so of (very dull) material.

Thanks to a late Christmas gift, I now have the Black Guardian trilogy on dvd. For the original series, I only have two stories left - Keys of Marinus and Destiny of the Daleks - that are out, that I don't have. And I'm pretty sure I'll be able to pick up Marinus during my trip in two weeks.

Be sure to look out for the accidental shot of Katy Manning's purple knickers, won't you. There was a bit of a wardrobe malfunction..

Oh now you're just messing with us. Why would I be looking at a girl's knickers? Now if you'll excuse me, I have to watch that scene of Jamie on the ladder with the camera facing right up his kilt. :bolian:

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lmao ok, that's funny. But I liked guys long before I met Barrowman. :P



The Claws of Axos 3

In the lab, the Axonite comes to life and starts attacking people, then kidnaps the Doctor and Jo. The Axonites tell the Doctor their whole plan.

Due to his massive fuck up, Chinn is forced to resign. He simply forgets to tell anybody around him.

The Axons interrogate the Doctor, trying to get the secret of time travel - the secret he doesn't even remember, thanks to the blocks placed in his memories by the Time Lords.

The Master repeatedly tries to get the Doctor's Tardis fixed, without success.

The Doctor works with the Axons. While their experiment is failing, he escapes. The Master works with UNIT. In the end, he flips a switch that will destroy the Axon ship - with Jo and the Doctor trapped inside.

* * *

Interesting, the Master working with UNIT. It almost looks like the Brig and the Master have a sort of respect for each other, though they are on opposite sides of everything.

Jo is still a useless creaming banshee. Can she die now, please?

The video for the first half of this episode is just terrible. It's really shitty quality. I know it was one of the earliest releases, but it looks like they didn't even make a bit of effort cleaning it up. The newer releases (as well as the previous two episodes) look SO much better. When these things cost 20 bucks - or more - for a single story, I expect better.



The Claws of Axos 4

Jo stands around screaming. The Doctor slaps her and tells her to stop it. I rewound that scene about 15 times.

The Doctor and Jo escape and rejoin their UNIT colleagues. (um, wasn't the ship supposed to go boom? or are we just supposed to forget the last episode happened?)

The Doctor and the Master go inside the Doc's Tardis. The Doctor offers to let the Master travel with him, and they do work together for a little while.

The Doctor tells the Brig off, steps back inside his Tardis and tells the Master to start er up. It dematerializes and reappears in the Axos' ship. He fakes a deal with them that will end up destroying them.

The Master escapes, everyone leaves, the ship and complex go boom, and the Tardis materializes next to the Brig, far away from the explosion.

* * *

The video quality is back to the normal high standards, so that's good. The continuity, however, leaves something to be desired. What, we're just supposed to forget that the cliffhanger has the Axos ship go boom, without a single line of dialog suggesting they stopped it?

What the fuck kind of power does Jo have over the Doctor? In the last episode, the Doctor agrees to work with the Axons only after they show him a picture of what Jo would look like if she was old. Here, he specifically says that when he goes away, Jo is the only one he will miss. In an unscientific poll, I've ranked her the most useless companion in the history of ever. What is it the Doctor sees in her, I just don't get it? It's certainly not that she is "pretty" since let's face it, he's had better looking girls around. And Jamie. It's not that she's smart, because she's dumb as a fucking box of rocks. I know there are people who complain about Adric and Rose, but have they seen an episode with Jo?

All that said, I DID like the story. The idea of a living ship (years before Babylon 5 or Farscape tried it) is fascinating, and then to throw in that everything aboard the ship, including the "people" are all just part of the one being? That's a really cool concept, and I think they pulled it off splendidly.
 
Most of the JNT era leaves me somewhat cold, but I don't mind Mawdryn.. so much. It's certainly better than the story that followed, Terminus IMO. And anything with the Brig in it ain't so bad..

Those stories are fine (other than the abysmal Black Guardian). They just suffer from the padding. It would be interesting to isolate and assemble all of the clips of people wandering around on space ships from both serials and string them together. You'd probably have at least an hour or so of (very dull) material.

The Beeb and the RT brought Fiona Cumming in to recut Enlightenment into a 75-minute movie as a bonus disc on the Black Guardian Trilogy DVD set. Too bad they couldn't have asked her to recut all three serials!
 
The video for the first half of this episode is just terrible. It's really shitty quality. I know it was one of the earliest releases, but it looks like they didn't even make a bit of effort cleaning it up. The newer releases (as well as the previous two episodes) look SO much better. When these things cost 20 bucks - or more - for a single story, I expect better.

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The video quality is back to the normal high standards, so that's good.

One of the problems with the Pertwee stories is that they don't all exist on their original PAL videotapes; some were missing from the archives and discovered in Canada on lower-quality (which is expected, since they were converted in the 70's!) NTSC conversions of the original material.

For the DVD release, they had to reconvert Episodes 2 and 3 to PAL for the UK release (so at this point they've gone from PAL -> NTSC -> PAL, and the quality of those two episodes will be inferior to those of Episodes 1 and 4, which exist on their original PAL videotapes). The episodes look a lot better than they did before restoration, but they will still look bad compared to the original videotapes. Of course, it'll look worse for anyone in the US, since they will be converted a third time back to NTSC (although using much better equipment)! One of the extras on this disc, 'Reverse Standards Conversion', goes into this conversion in detail.

What is interesting is that you commented on the quality of these episodes, but not of those of Inferno, which exists completely on NTSC tapes - perhaps it's because there's no higher-quality footage to compare with?

Overall, this is going to be something to expect from the Pertwee era, since a most stories in Seasons 7-9 will suffer in some way; only Spearhead from Space and Day of the Daleks exist completely on their original PAL tapes. From season 10 onwards the situation is a lot better, with only one episode from Planet of the Daleks and Invasion of the Dinosaurs having an episode not on its original PAL tape.
 
What is it the Doctor sees in her, I just don't get it?

In Season 8, one of the conceits of the season was the difference between Jo and Liz. Yes, she's as dumb as a box of rocks, but methinks she has more going for her than, let's say, VIctoria did when she started out or even Polly or Dodo. Jo represented a return to those sorts of girl companions.

However, what often gets unnoticed in discussions of Jo, IMO, is the fact that she actually does start to "get it" with each season. So, the end of her companion role makes sense. She didn't by any means turn into Liz, but she did turn out to at least "get it." You'll notice it in The Sea Devils in particular as well as her last story, The Green Death.

Something, however, that befuddles me, and since you're doing DVD's you'll not notice it, is Colony in Space. Jo, by this point knows about the TARDIS, etc.but she doesn't,for whatever reason believe it's bigger on the inside, etc. Granted it's her first trip in it, but that seems to be a bit of a continuity error.
 
Something, however, that befuddles me, and since you're doing DVD's you'll not notice it, is Colony in Space. Jo, by this point knows about the TARDIS, etc.but she doesn't,for whatever reason believe it's bigger on the inside, etc. Granted it's her first trip in it, but that seems to be a bit of a continuity error.

How can it be a continuity error if she's never been in the TARDIS before?
 
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It's not just that. Granted it's been years since I've seen any of these episodes in aggregate, but....She's been in 3 episodes before, seen the TARDIS, and knows it's important. She even knows it can dematerialize, etc...and yet in CiS, it's not just the fact that it is dimensionally transcendental, it's as if she has no clue about the TARDIS at all. It makes it look this is the first time she been exposed to itl. It looks almost as if this story was either meant to be transmitted before Claws but rescheduled or Hulke wrote the script rather early in Jo's development and Dicks & Letts didn't clean that bit up very well.
 
What is interesting is that you commented on the quality of these episodes, but not of those of Inferno, which exists completely on NTSC tapes - perhaps it's because there's no higher-quality footage to compare with?

In Inferno, the video quality didn't drastically change between episodes as it did here, which is why it was so jarring.
 
It's not just that. Granted it's been years since I've seen any of these episodes in aggregate, but....She's been in 3 episodes before, seen the TARDIS, and knows it's important. She even knows it can dematerialize, etc...and yet in CiS, it's not just the fact that it is dimensionally transcendental, it's as if she has no clue about the TARDIS at all. It makes it look this is the first time she been exposed to itl. It looks almost as if this story was either meant to be transmitted before Claws but rescheduled or Hulke wrote the script rather early in Jo's development and Dicks & Letts didn't clean that bit up very well.

No Claws Of Axos was commissioned much earlier than Colony In Space, for one thing and there's no reason why she'd know much about the TARDIS since she'd never been in it before. Wilf and many others including the Brigadier also had the same reaction upon entering the TARDIS for the first time despite knowing about the Doctor and the TARDIS for a lot longer than Jo did.

http://www.shannonsullivan.com/drwho/serials/ggg.html

The storyline conceived by Baker and Martin was a seven-part adventure featuring Patrick Troughton's then-current Second Doctor, entitled “The Gift”. It involved evil aliens who land in Hyde Park in a skull-shaped spacecraft, and featured spaceship battles and even a giant carrot crashing into the park. “The Gift” was scaled back to six installments by the time the script for episode one was commissioned on December 1st, 1969, by which point Jon Pertwee had been cast as the new Doctor. However, the script was not submitted to the production office until April 6th, 1970 -- more than three months past the original delivery date of January 2nd -- and failed to meet the approval of incoming producer Barry Letts. Letts felt that “The Gift” was too much of a jumble of ideas, and was unhappy with the skull spaceship image. The script also seemed to overestimate what could be accomplished on the limited Doctor Who budget.

http://www.shannonsullivan.com/drwho/serials/hhh.html

Nonetheless, Letts was determined that Doctor Who's eighth season would see the Doctor venture, in some fashion, back into outer space. On June 29th, 1970, Hulke was commissioned to pen a storyline titled “Colony”, which would take as its inspiration the days of the Wild West and the strife between settlers and Native Americans. Hulke was asked to incorporate the Master into “Colony”, but by this stage, Letts and script editor Terrance Dicks were aware that their plan to feature the new archvillain in all five Season Eight stories risked making the adventures seem predictable and boring. As such, it was agreed that Hulke would not bring the Master to the forefront until midway through the serial. “Colony” would also see a minimal presence from the UNIT characters, with Benton and Yates entirely absent and the Brigadier present only in the opening and closing installments.
 
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The Sea Devils, episode 1
Written by Malcolm Hulke
Directed by Michael Briant

A boat is being attacked. They call for help, but before they can say where they are, it's too late.

Elsewhere, the Doctor and Jo travel by boat to a prison, which is (in theory) the Master's permanent home.

They speak with the warden, who mentions quite a few boats of sunk recently, and they are lucky to have made it there. Yes, the Master is still a prisoner. Oh, and all the guards are immune to hypnosis.

The Doctor and Jo talk with the Master. He is pleasant, civil, even friendly. After the Doctor leaves, it turns out to be faked. Everyone at the prison is under the Master's control.

The Doctor goes off to investigate the missing boats. He discovers an abandoned fort in the middle of the sinkings. As soon as they're in the fort, they look out - their boat has been destroyed. They're trapped. And a monster is coming right at them!

* * *

This is different, yet sort of the same. The Sea Devil has been hid pretty well. I'm guessing the next episode will have a big reveal of the costume/makeup.

I wonder how they caught the Master? I suppose it doesn't matter much, it's an unseen (by me) adventure. Anyway, he's all about hypnotizing people. Some things never change.

Since when does the useless Jo refer to herself as Josephine? That's new. But she's still useless.
 
Yep. The Silurians really, really,REALLY drags out. The Sea Devils is actually a good 6 parter. It keeps your attention from beginning to end IMO.
 
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