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Classic episodes now considered "lame" - ?!

Undeniable. But it's kind of a fun thought experiment inadvertently made real: what if you made an episode and no one- writer, director, actors, makeup artist, audience members past present or future- had the faintest idea what was going on
I even had fun calculating that if they somehow do meet, how many megatonnes would two men of 175 pounds make assuming a 100% mass to energy conversion? An approximate result would be a fully switched on Tsar Bomba. Certainly not 'jeopardizing the existence of our Universe'.
 
The only episode I actively skipped in my current rewatch is “And the Children Shall Lead.” That’s because it feels wrong to wish ill on children, and I really wish somebody had shoved them all out an airlock. There, I admitted it. I’m not proud, but…gads.

Well, they were under the influence of an evil apparition that just needed to get some Hey, there we go in playing small universe syndrome, the gorgon is related to the plasma gas monster in "Sub Rosa"! Or even better yet, is!
 
I seem to remember a time (mid-to-late 1990's) when a lot of folks knew about "The Trouble With Tribbles," somehow or other. Even the "sophisticated" folks with whom I attended college (read that as nouveau riche) would say "oh, is that the show with the little furballs" or something along those lines when I mentioned Star Trek.

The past decade or so, I haven't heard or read much about the episode in its praise. Is it something which was touted a bit too much years ago (a la "you just HAVE to see this episode!!!"), and we're tired of hearing about it/not that great in the first place?

I do enjoy the episode, to be clear.
 
I never skip an episode of the series and I'm no fan of I, Mudd. But Plato's Stepchildren and Whom God's Destroy are pretty awful episodes. People condemn Alternative Factor, Spock's Brain and And The Children Shall Lead all the time when it's these two stinkers that should be getting the boot!!!
JB
 
The Lights of Zetar scrapes the bottom of the barrel for me. I don’t typically rewatch entire seasons of episodic shows if I’ve watched them frequently already, so some TOS episodes get more attention than others when I go back now. Zetar gets the least attention of all.
 
The Lights of Zetar scrapes the bottom of the barrel for me. I don’t typically rewatch entire seasons of episodic shows if I’ve watched them frequently already, so some TOS episodes get more attention than others when I go back now. Zetar gets the least attention of all.
Agreed it's awful. It's in my bottom of the barrel list:

The Lights of Zetar​
And the Children Shall Lead​
Plato's Stepchildren​
Turnabout Intruder​
Spock's Brain​
The Alternative Factor​

Of those six, I most prefer "The Alternative Factor."
 
Agreed it's awful. It's in my bottom of the barrel list:

The Lights of Zetar​
And the Children Shall Lead​
Plato's Stepchildren​
Turnabout Intruder​
Spock's Brain​
The Alternative Factor​

Of those six, I most prefer "The Alternative Factor."
SB is at least campy, just turn your mind off and enjoy. What would Spock do if I pressed up up down down left right left right b a?
 
I always loved the somewhat over the top performance of Ihnat as Garth as well. Sure, the whole thing is ridiculous but it's watchable because of those two actors, he and Yvonne Craig.

The dialogue is also excellent throughout. Both Kirk and Spock have many great lines, as does Garth, and the Scotty/McCoy/Sulu bridge scenes—featuring some actual security and a demonstration of the power of the Enterprise—are excellent. It's also a continuation of the disease and penal themes with which the writers were obsessed. I enjoy it thoroughly.
 
Okay, let's be honest though. The "boop boop" wheelchair communication of "The Menagerie" was stupid even in 1966. That's not because tastes have changed today. In a society where there are literal telepaths serving in Starfleet, the idea that the best they could manage was a yes or no flashing light was absurd.
 
Hell yes. She's my favorite female guest star from TOS. Just utterly gorgeous and charming.
She and Kirk get memorably ripped, that's certain.
"Whom Gods Destroy" is made watchable only by the delectable presence of Yvonne Craig. :adore:
Mildly interesting to some, but when a VULCAN's mildly interested, I'd still be careful.
I always loved the somewhat over the top performance of Ihnat as Garth as well. Sure, the whole thing is ridiculous but it's watchable because of those two actors, he and Yvonne Craig.
REMOVE THIAS ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, let's be honest though. The "boop boop" wheelchair communication of "The Menagerie" was stupid even in 1966. That's not because tastes have changed today. In a society where there are literal telepaths serving in Starfleet, the idea that the best they could manage was a yes or no flashing light was absurd.
I'll flash once in response.:censored:
 
Okay, let's be honest though. The "boop boop" wheelchair communication of "The Menagerie" was stupid even in 1966. That's not because tastes have changed today. In a society where there are literal telepaths serving in Starfleet, the idea that the best they could manage was a yes or no flashing light was absurd.
A real SF writer would have given Pike a voice box or video screen that displayed text instead of the flash response. I wonder if someone in the show thought of Pike communicating via Morse? He can alter the duration of the flashes, can't he? "Dit dit dit, dash dash dash, dit dit dit" "He's been saying S.O.S. for hours..."
 
Okay, let's be honest though. The "boop boop" wheelchair communication of "The Menagerie" was stupid even in 1966. That's not because tastes have changed today. In a society where there are literal telepaths serving in Starfleet, the idea that the best they could manage was a yes or no flashing light was absurd.

...now I kind of like the idea that Pike was in so much agony that attempting telepathic communication with him harmed the telepath.

Though if that was the case, it kind of begs the question of what Pike's quality of life really was, and why apparently euthanasia/assisted suicide was apparently never on the table.
 
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