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Claasic Who recommendations for a newbie

Is the Paul McGann/8th Doctor movie worth checking out?
McGann himself is fantastic but apart from his performance the TV movie is mediocre at best.

I'd have to disagree with you there, the TV movie was great.
You said as much yeah. Actually I was disagreeing with you. So, what makes it great? Is it a good introduction to Doctor Who? Is it original or thought-provoking? Is it funny? Are there any standout performances from any of the supporting actors? Is it expertly plotted? Is the story memorable?
 
McGann himself is fantastic but apart from his performance the TV movie is mediocre at best.

I'd have to disagree with you there, the TV movie was great.
You said as much yeah. Actually I was disagreeing with you. So, what makes it great? Is it a good introduction to Doctor Who? Is it original or thought-provoking? Is it funny? Are there any standout performances from any of the supporting actors? Is it expertly plotted? Is the story memorable?
Well it is memorable for being both the Seventh's last chronological appearence, and the Eighth's first. And the Master's last appearence until some 11 years later.
 
It amounts to nothing now, since Y2K computer calendar issue was conquered before it had a chance to cause upheaval, but, the plot kinda played with the Y2K threat, which actually was a pretty big concern back in 1996
 
I'd have to disagree with you there, the TV movie was great.
You said as much yeah. Actually I was disagreeing with you. So, what makes it great? Is it a good introduction to Doctor Who? Is it original or thought-provoking? Is it funny? Are there any standout performances from any of the supporting actors? Is it expertly plotted? Is the story memorable?
Well it is memorable for being both the Seventh's last chronological appearence, and the Eighth's first. And the Master's last appearence until some 11 years later.

It's notable for those things. That doesn't necessarily make it memorable.
 
"The Curse of Fenric"-- Enjoyable for the most part, although in some ways it kind of fell apart in the final episode. I liked Ace, and Sylvester McCoy was a satisfactory Doctor.

"Doctor Who"-- Well, I really liked Paul McGann as the Doctor and would have loved to see more of him in the role. However, I agree with those who say that the story itself wasn't all that good. I found the larger set for the inside of the TARDIS kind of cool, and recognized the beautiful Daphne Ashbrook (who played companion Grace) as Melora Pazlar from Deep Space Nine and the Titan book series right off the bat.

Uhhm, the Doctor is half human? Since when?

Well, I've gotten my taste of all of the Doctors, but I will definitely be going back for more. I actually think that I'm enjoying exploring the classic show more than the contemporary one. I honestly didn't expect that to happen.
 
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You said as much yeah. Actually I was disagreeing with you. So, what makes it great? Is it a good introduction to Doctor Who? Is it original or thought-provoking? Is it funny? Are there any standout performances from any of the supporting actors? Is it expertly plotted? Is the story memorable?
Well it is memorable for being both the Seventh's last chronological appearence, and the Eighth's first. And the Master's last appearence until some 11 years later.

It's notable for those things. That doesn't necessarily make it memorable.
It does, because by now even casual fans know the regeneration scene from it.
 
Well it is memorable for being both the Seventh's last chronological appearence, and the Eighth's first. And the Master's last appearence until some 11 years later.

It's notable for those things. That doesn't necessarily make it memorable.
It does, because by now even casual fans know the regeneration scene from it.

From frequent out-of-context repetition of that clip, yes. The rest of it, not so much.
 
I know that they're non-canon, but what's the deal with the Peter Cushing movies? My local library has them.

The Doctor is a human scientist, not a Time Lord and Susan is a lot younger.

Other than that they are not too different, well worth a watch.

The first one is a remake of Dalek Invasion of Earth and has Bernard Cribbens in it.

I quite like them as enjoyable oddities.
 
I know that they're non-canon, but what's the deal with the Peter Cushing movies? My local library has them.

The Doctor is a human scientist, not a Time Lord and Susan is a lot younger.

Other than that they are not too different, well worth a watch.

The first one is a remake of Dalek Invasion of Earth and has Bernard Cribbens in it.

I quite like them as enjoyable oddities.

That's the second one. Basically, they're remakes of the first two TV Dalek serials. The Daleks were really the break-out stars that initially made the TV series a success, and were arguably iconic before the Doctor himself became so; the early '60s was the time of "Dalek-mania" in Britain. To cash in on their popularity, Amicus films adapted 'The Daleks' and 'The Dalek Invasion of Earth' as cinematic movies, with a few tweaks to make them work a bit better as standalone stories unconnected to a larger narrative - this was before the mythology we now take for granted had been established in the show; the Doctor was still an enigma whose origins were unknown, so the films' writers had greater freedom to disregard that element of the show. Doctor Who (for that is his name) is a human scientist who invents "Tardis" (proper name, no definite article), and whisks his two granddaughters, Susan (younger than the TV version) and Barbara, and Barbara's boyfriend Ian, off to Skaro.

The TV cast were not involved because they were busy making the series.
 
I know that they're non-canon, but what's the deal with the Peter Cushing movies? My local library has them.

The Doctor is a human scientist, not a Time Lord and Susan is a lot younger.

Other than that they are not too different, well worth a watch.

The first one is a remake of Dalek Invasion of Earth and has Bernard Cribbens in it.

I quite like them as enjoyable oddities.

That's the second one. Basically, they're remakes of the first two TV Dalek serials. The Daleks were really the break-out stars that initially made the TV series a success, and were arguably iconic before the Doctor himself became so; the early '60s was the time of "Dalek-mania" in Britain. To cash in on their popularity, Amicus films adapted 'The Daleks' and 'The Dalek Invasion of Earth' as cinematic movies, with a few tweaks to make them work a bit better as standalone stories unconnected to a larger narrative - this was before the mythology we now take for granted had been established in the show; the Doctor was still an enigma whose origins were unknown, so the films' writers had greater freedom to disregard that element of the show. Doctor Who (for that is his name) is a human scientist who invents "Tardis" (proper name, no definite article), and whisks his two granddaughters, Susan (younger than the TV version) and Barbara, and Barbara's boyfriend Ian, off to Skaro.

The TV cast were not involved because they were busy making the series.

Huh. They sound interesting enough to spend an afternoon on. I mean, hell, Peter Cushing as the Doctor? That's a certain amount of win right there, isn't it?

Thanks to both of you for the history.:):techman:
 
Some of the Dalek props for the movies were also reused a few times in the TV series, most notably in Planet of the Daleks for the Supreme Dalek. Also they were used in a lot of Dalek merchandise (Even well after the movies). Design elements of the movie Daleks were also used for the 2005 ("The Time War" Daleks) and 2010 (The somewhat short-lived Paradigm Daleks) redesigns. The 2005-current Daleks notably have the 'jam-jar' headlights, while the 2010 Daleks have the multi-colored look of the movie Daleks.


Some elements of the Cushing console room also made their way into the new series, such as the doors matching the police box outside.
 
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