Chris Pine Wants To Know What’s Going On With Next Star Trek Movie

[RAMA]

Fact: the vast majority of even successful box office movies like Marvel and the like, never make a profit till years later when secondary income is counted.

Eventually, Taking into account avg secondary income, Beyond will make $150-200 Million in profit. Was it what anyone was expecting? Nope. Is it a disappointment? On those terms yes. Is it a failure? Not even close.

Reports up until quite close to release had it at $150 million. It is possible the budget blew out, particularly as work was started then abandoned on an earlier script.

Also, while ID made less than its predecessor in the US, it made more worldwide. Beyond made less than either film in both respects.



Sure, but it's not a donation. They take a cut of the box office in return. It reduces the risk somewhat, but it also reduces the reward, and makes other markets more important. Beyond was down in almost all of those.



Beyond was their highest grossing film of 2016, but there's no way it was their most profitable.

Beyond made $158 million in the US and $343 million worldwide on a $185 million budget. As one example, Arrival made $100 million in the US and $198 million worldwide on a $47 million budget.

I know which I'd be happier with if I was at Paramount.

Disc sales may narrow the gap, since Trek fans love to complete their collection (though I haven't bought it yet in protest at the splitting of features), but that's a big gap to fill.

In short, they'd be extraordinarily bold to not reduce the budget on a series which already has a limited market and is showing diminishing returns - if they make another one at all.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

The point stands though, Beyond has left the movie franchise in a very precarious position, but probably in slightly better shape than the Terminator franchise, granted.

Agreed. I still think we'll be getting Star Trek 14 at some point though.

ST09's home video sales amounted to $199,143,833.

Source: http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Star-Trek#tab=summary

Where is the other 500-600 million coming from? That is a huge amount of money.

Exactly so. Where is the other 600 million dollars coming from? Hollywood creative accounting?

 

[BillJ]

Agreed. I still think we'll be getting Star Trek 14 at some point though.

I'm want another movie, though I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[Gaith]

Terminator Genysis made more money than Star Trek Beyond you know, nearly a hundred million dollars more in fact, and on a smaller budget... Just sayin'

Not necessarily - IIRC, Genysis had a much bigger marketing push, and Arnold could have received a much bigger percentage of revenues outside of his base salary than anyone in the Beyond team. There's a lot we don't exactly know here.

 

[Smellmet]

Not necessarily - IIRC, Genysis had a much bigger marketing push, and Arnold could have received a much bigger percentage of revenues outside of his base salary than anyone in the Beyond team. There's a lot we don't exactly know here.

Precisely, so I can only go of the numbers available to us.