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Chibnall: "I don't read reviews."

Does this thread serve much of a purpose besides Chibnall bashing? I mean, fine, no one's required to like him, but many writers and producers out there make it a policy not to read reviews of their work. This is nothing new. But, Oh no! Chibnall won't read reviews. He's unfit to run Doctor Who! Save us Moffat! Why have you forsaken us RTD?

Wake me up when there's a real discussion going on here.

Oh by all means then, let's all stop giving our opinion in this thread because The Wormhole doesn't like it and we should all post only what he finds interesting.

Anyway, back on topic...
 
They’re carefully selected and excludes information to push a narrative. TV ratings use several methods to determine the viewers since few people watch TV live now. So no, the figures aren’t accurate.

Oh I see... the numbers were jiggled to specifically piss you off. Got it. Thanks for explaining. ;)
 
Oh I see... the numbers were jiggled to specifically piss you off. Got it. Thanks for explaining. ;)
No, to please idiots who hate a show instead of reflecting reality. But nice try.

So let’s check another source that isn’t ignoring how ratings are collected.
Doctor Who returned with a bang on New Year's Day, though it seems the series 12 premiere hasn't proved quite as popular with viewers.

Last night's (January 1) episode 'Spyfall, Part 1' saw Jodie Whittaker's Thirteenth Doctor begin her second series with a huge twist, leaving fans desperate for the second part.

However, it didn't prove equally huge in the ratings, drawing 4.96 million viewers – the lowest overnight figure yet for the actress' Doctor – and down on her 8.2 million debut in 2018 (via Deadline

Yet it's worth looking at it in context, as it follows a pattern for Doctors' second series – and comparatively it did better than Peter Capaldi's second series premiere in 2015, which took in 4.6 million viewers.

The episode also did better than the other big BBC One show of the evening, Dracula, which took in 3.6 million at the later time of 9pm.

And of course, both shows will be boosted significantly by catch-up figures in the coming days and weeks.
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The consolidated ratings seem to be around 5-6 million viewers.
 
Does this thread serve much of a purpose besides Chibnall bashing? I mean, fine, no one's required to like him, but many writers and producers out there make it a policy not to read reviews of their work. This is nothing new. But, Oh no! Chibnall won't read reviews. He's unfit to run Doctor Who! Save us Moffat! Why have you forsaken us RTD?

Wake me up when there's a real discussion going on here.
Yuuuup. Exactly.
 
The general gist I get from the ratings is they are up from Capaldi but continuing to slide since the first episode of the Chibnall era.


Jason
 
If you read the Writers Tale there's enough there to indicate RTD didn't read reviews either, he certainly disapproved of the online bear pit and how it can shatter the confidence of a newer writer so this is nothing new and not uncommon through the industry.

Of course the BBC have their own research and feedback process that he will have the details of.
 
No, to please idiots who hate a show instead of reflecting reality. But nice try.

So let’s check another source that isn’t ignoring how ratings are collected.

And... your link proves my point... the viewing figures are drastically slipping, even if the slide began in the Capaldi era (which largely sucked too, even though Capaldi is arguably one of the best Doctors).
 
It’s also three episodes in. You’re calling the race when it isn’t over.

How am I "calling the race?" I merely linked an article quoting stats you find disagreement with.

It's okay for people to disagree with you; it's not going to bring your world crashing down.
 
The thing with UKTV ratings is it isn't about the raw numbers - there's a wider range of channels and viewing options, meaning every programme has lower numbers than five/ten/whatever years ago. Wht the analysts are looking at is the percentages - how did a show do on that day, against the other shows on that day or in that week, and how it did in that slot compared to other shows in that slot etc. I.e. the fact that the series premiere was down on last year (awwww) but the second most-watched show of the day in Britain (yay).
 
If I was Doctor Who showrunner, I wouldn’t read the reviews either. I have no doubt, though, that someone is giving Chibnall the gist of it. Plenty seem to be loving the series as it is, but it can’t have escaped his attention that a lot fans just aren’t feeling it.
 
Well, it is my thread. ;)

You started it. Now it belongs to all of us.

As for reading reviews, Chibnall is absolutely correct. The best example of how reading reviews and online commentary totally screwed up a series is WestWorld Season 2, which twisted itself into knots trying to stay a step ahead of the online fans who guessed the original plan for the series, so the writers decided to make it even more convoluted and nonsensical just to preserve 'the mystery' rather than sticking to their original vision. Now, this doesn't mean that I'm a fan of the last episode (I'm not) but trying to react and adjust based on online feedback is a fools game.
 
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