As I said, the point isn't the cat. The point is that quantum states are indeterminate until they're observed. The cat is just a thought experiment.
Charlie Brooker's News Wipe
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god im thick ( & in need of sleep)
if we seriously have a branch of math that insists we shouldnt look to find out the result of something, but then can only conclude that the thing is both alive & dead at the same time, seems kinda pointless to me.
guess my GCSE Maths C, counts for nothing these days.
Unless this is to do with physics, which is strange as I was maybe the only person in my science class to enjoy physics, maybe I should have done more with that, when I left school.
if we seriously have a branch of math that insists we shouldnt look to find out the result of something, but then can only conclude that the thing is both alive & dead at the same time, seems kinda pointless to me.
guess my GCSE Maths C, counts for nothing these days.
Unless this is to do with physics, which is strange as I was maybe the only person in my science class to enjoy physics, maybe I should have done more with that, when I left school.
It is physics. Quantum Mechanics is the the physics of the subatomic level, where things are very weird.
IIRC Shroedinger's Cat was devised by the man himself (sorry about the spelling, I want to get this story from memory without googling) to show just how absurd the idea of observation affecting the result of an experiment seemed to him.
Yeah, but it does illustrate the idea very well, so it's probably the best way to describe it.
Finally got around to watching the latest episode today. Absolutely fantastic, and one of the best pieces of television I've seen in ages. As cutting and insightful as ever, his pieces about User Content and Jade Goody hit the nail on the head perfectly.
I'm enjoying playing "spot the horror movie music" on Newswipe so far; the first episode used The Gonk, from Romero's Dawn of the Dead a few times, and this episode used part of Ennio Morricone's score from The Thing, whilst Peter Oborne was talking about politics and big business.
Oh, and no Tim Key this time. Yay!
I'm enjoying playing "spot the horror movie music" on Newswipe so far; the first episode used The Gonk, from Romero's Dawn of the Dead a few times, and this episode used part of Ennio Morricone's score from The Thing, whilst Peter Oborne was talking about politics and big business.
Oh, and no Tim Key this time. Yay!
Tim Key is a drag on the show.
My wife nearly busted a gut during the cutaway during the Cat scene with the guy beating the stuffed cat against the table because of the sheer stupidity of it. Then again half a bottle of wine probably helped.
He does rant well. Very well indeed.
My wife nearly busted a gut during the cutaway during the Cat scene with the guy beating the stuffed cat against the table because of the sheer stupidity of it. Then again half a bottle of wine probably helped.
He does rant well. Very well indeed.
During the last series of Screenwipe, I got a friend of mine to watch an episode, cause I'd been banging on about it for ages. It ended up being an episode with Tim Key in it. When I got around to asking him what he thought about it, he said; "Aye, it was pretty good. Well, except for that tosspot and his shit poetry". 
Needless to say, I reassured him that the vast majority of Screenwipe episodes do not feature Key.
So far, I haven't met, or spoken to, anyone who likes Tim Key's material.
Needless to say, I reassured him that the vast majority of Screenwipe episodes do not feature Key.So far, I haven't met, or spoken to, anyone who likes Tim Key's material.
Even Cowards wasn't that good and there were 3 others to keep him in check. Have to admit on the TV version the Judges on the smoke break were amusing, but that was about it. Hated the guys living in the trailer.
Missed the first 5 minutes of tonights episode, but what I saw was pretty good. Although, I don't think it was as good as last weeks. That might have been partly due to the return of Tim Key, though.
I really don't get how his stuff is supposed to work. I mean, is it supposed to be a parody of arty, pretentious poetry types? Is he playing a sort of David Brent-ish character who thinks he's a great poet, when actually he's really shit? Is the stuff he does supposed to be some kind of obscure comedy metaphor for current events? I just honestly can't see what level his stuff it supposed to work on.
I really don't get how his stuff is supposed to work. I mean, is it supposed to be a parody of arty, pretentious poetry types? Is he playing a sort of David Brent-ish character who thinks he's a great poet, when actually he's really shit? Is the stuff he does supposed to be some kind of obscure comedy metaphor for current events? I just honestly can't see what level his stuff it supposed to work on.
I just watch this on i player so i could FF the poetry.
Not the funnest but it is hard to laugh at pictures of staving kids.
Fox news sure has some strange people on it.
Not the funnest but it is hard to laugh at pictures of staving kids.
Fox news sure has some strange people on it.
Amazingly, Brooker manages to hit the nail on the head regarding current issues than any of the current news programs, especially on the whole Jade Goody debacle.
I hope Tim Key doesn't come into Newswipe. I found his sections boring, tedious and entirely pointless, to the extent where I used the power of DVR to pause him and then fast-forward through his crappy little section. Quite why Key is on there I have no idea.
I hope Tim Key doesn't come into Newswipe. I found his sections boring, tedious and entirely pointless, to the extent where I used the power of DVR to pause him and then fast-forward through his crappy little section. Quite why Key is on there I have no idea.
Too late, he's already there. As to why see my last post.
like yesterdays Daily Show, Brooker did a round of "bash FOX news" gee no one has ever done that before, yes ok the "oh dear ism" segment at the end was good, but I really do wonder how much material there is for this series, without getting repetitive, or just point at the news itself, rather than the news coverage.
^Only as much material as your beloved Daily Show. I mean it covers much the same ground, only in a review format rather than a talk show format. He has his contributors doing pieces, same as The Daily Show, he had Peter Oborne on and plugged his books, in much the same way as The Daily Show, but without the chat.
And you can't blame him for having a shot at Fox News when he was doing a piece about American News, but to be fair he did have a shot at others, too.
And you can't blame him for having a shot at Fox News when he was doing a piece about American News, but to be fair he did have a shot at others, too.
the problem is everyone rips into fox news using the same clips. im not sticking up for fox news I just think its lazy comedy, is like Bush bashing 12 months again, tried & really old.
talking of the Daily Show, it does feature funnies about the news, where is Screenwipe is more about news channels/programs.
actually my beloved Daily Show, well John does produce about 12 minutes of comdey per night, 4 nights a week, its not that mucn in reality, and his whole "im in love with Obama and wont mention when he slips up" thing is getting really old and will kill the show.
talking of the Daily Show, it does feature funnies about the news, where is Screenwipe is more about news channels/programs.
actually my beloved Daily Show, well John does produce about 12 minutes of comdey per night, 4 nights a week, its not that mucn in reality, and his whole "im in love with Obama and wont mention when he slips up" thing is getting really old and will kill the show.
Another great ep. The news report incorporated into Mary, Mungo & Midge was hilarious
American news is just awful though. Just over a year ago I went to stay with my uncle for a bit in New Jersey, and he's lived out there for 30 years so I guess he's used to it. But he used to watch the evening news, and god it was a horrendous, like some uber-Brass Eye/Day Today parody or something
American news is just awful though. Just over a year ago I went to stay with my uncle for a bit in New Jersey, and he's lived out there for 30 years so I guess he's used to it. But he used to watch the evening news, and god it was a horrendous, like some uber-Brass Eye/Day Today parody or something
Another good episode all round.......^^^^And yes the M,M & M bit was hilarious.
