Chariot of the gods
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I've read several of Von Daniken's works and about 11 years ago I went to a lecture in a Cardiff Bookshop given by another advocate of Ancient Astronauts, purchasing a signed copy of the book they were promoting. The theory about visitations by ET in the past is certainly a compelling one, though I no longer believe that the pyramids and the Sphynx or built by Zeta Reticulans.
Go to You Tube and type in 'Anient Astronauts' there's loads of documentaries on the subvject on there. One presented by Leonard Nimoy and another by Rod 'the Twighlight Zone' Serling, both from the ;70s when it appears the Ancient Astronaut craze was at its height.
Go to You Tube and type in 'Anient Astronauts' there's loads of documentaries on the subvject on there. One presented by Leonard Nimoy and another by Rod 'the Twighlight Zone' Serling, both from the ;70s when it appears the Ancient Astronaut craze was at its height.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
I read that book many years ago, in fact it's one of the few books i've actually bothered to read and I enjoyed it. I can't remember much about it now though but I remember enjoying it. It must be good though because I read it from beginning to end when usually when I try reading a book I put it down after 2 pages from boredom.
It was discredited many years ago and has pretty much been ignored since. There was zero scientific impact because there is no science in it. It was in fact the inspiration for the original BSG. The new show ignored it as well.
RAMA
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
Still a good read.
It's a great book and, personally, I find the hypothesis compelling.
The History Channel just showed a lengthy documentary called Ancient Aliens -- it was very good! There were a couple of things here and there that made me chuckle...like the guy who said the Mayan King Pacal might have been an alien...
But there were some things on there that really make you wonder how certain things were accomplished by the ancients -- alien or not. Many of these things have yet to be adequately explained by historians, archaeologists and anthropologists.
For example, the mountaintop in Peru in Nazca where the top has been sheared off (the surrounding mountains are intact) and now topped with one of the "Nazca landing strips". The huge blocks of stone (cut to fit together like Legos!) created to build the ruined temple near Tiahuanaco in Bolivia.
The explanation for the construction of the great pyramids at Gizeh in Egypt is still inadequate to me.
So, a lot of things remain (to me anyway) insufficiently answered and until they are answered in a way that shuts the door on these topics definitively, then the ET hypothesis should remain on the table. Again, I do not think it impossible that ETs could have visited Earth in the distant past -- or even today. We have no idea what technology exists or what civilizations might have developed in the universe long before life on Earth evolved.
It's sheer vanity and ego to say this is impossible. I refuse to participate in such ego-centric thinking. I've never seen a UFO, but I refuse to say they do not exist -- as ET craft.
It's entirely possible that some are. Not all -- some.
I believe man is not the end-all, be-all in the universe and that other beings likely exist/existed that had technology far in advance of what humans can even perceive.
And yes, Galactica was based -- in part -- on the Chariots theory. I don't think they did a good job with it or placed enough emphasis on it. Stargate did a better job of it.
One reason I didn't care for the new Galactica is that they dumped this aspect of the original series. It was the one thing that set it apart from Star Wars...and gave it a lot of potential.
The Marvel comic book series "The Eternals" is also based on Chariots...and is an interesting series with artwork by Jack Kirby.
I think Von Daniken was/is a visionary. He may not be correct on every point, but I think his theory is worth a serious look.
Von Daniken has not been "discredited". That's laughable. The only way one could do that is to a.) use a time machine to go back and witness the construction of the pyramids, etc. or b.) find conclusive historical documentation/record on how these marvels were achieved.
Neither exist apparently.
Ancient Aliens is going to be available soon on DVD:
http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=86706
The History Channel just showed a lengthy documentary called Ancient Aliens -- it was very good! There were a couple of things here and there that made me chuckle...like the guy who said the Mayan King Pacal might have been an alien...
But there were some things on there that really make you wonder how certain things were accomplished by the ancients -- alien or not. Many of these things have yet to be adequately explained by historians, archaeologists and anthropologists.
For example, the mountaintop in Peru in Nazca where the top has been sheared off (the surrounding mountains are intact) and now topped with one of the "Nazca landing strips". The huge blocks of stone (cut to fit together like Legos!) created to build the ruined temple near Tiahuanaco in Bolivia.
The explanation for the construction of the great pyramids at Gizeh in Egypt is still inadequate to me.
So, a lot of things remain (to me anyway) insufficiently answered and until they are answered in a way that shuts the door on these topics definitively, then the ET hypothesis should remain on the table. Again, I do not think it impossible that ETs could have visited Earth in the distant past -- or even today. We have no idea what technology exists or what civilizations might have developed in the universe long before life on Earth evolved.
It's sheer vanity and ego to say this is impossible. I refuse to participate in such ego-centric thinking. I've never seen a UFO, but I refuse to say they do not exist -- as ET craft.
It's entirely possible that some are. Not all -- some.
I believe man is not the end-all, be-all in the universe and that other beings likely exist/existed that had technology far in advance of what humans can even perceive.
And yes, Galactica was based -- in part -- on the Chariots theory. I don't think they did a good job with it or placed enough emphasis on it. Stargate did a better job of it.
One reason I didn't care for the new Galactica is that they dumped this aspect of the original series. It was the one thing that set it apart from Star Wars...and gave it a lot of potential.
The Marvel comic book series "The Eternals" is also based on Chariots...and is an interesting series with artwork by Jack Kirby.
I think Von Daniken was/is a visionary. He may not be correct on every point, but I think his theory is worth a serious look.
Von Daniken has not been "discredited". That's laughable. The only way one could do that is to a.) use a time machine to go back and witness the construction of the pyramids, etc. or b.) find conclusive historical documentation/record on how these marvels were achieved.
Neither exist apparently.
Ancient Aliens is going to be available soon on DVD:
http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=86706
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The book was in a word shock content: it was all disproved - yep but there is this bridge in Brooklyn I have been trying to sell the bridge gets people from one side to the other and yep It is for sale what ever you can give would help the cause for life on other planets. Then we are not alone er I am but your not. right? what if the Lockness(sp) monster dies then what are we to do? I know a grave digger that worked for some Dr. that thought they could bring back the dead mmm no you just are not going to buy that one. LOL
ok the book is full of facts the interpretations are just totally wrong people ., facts are neither true nor false just facts the interpretations there of is what is false mostly not that this is going to matter later today.
ok the book is full of facts the interpretations are just totally wrong people ., facts are neither true nor false just facts the interpretations there of is what is false mostly not that this is going to matter later today.
What kind of nonsensical rambling is that? If you have a point to make, at least put some coherent sentences together that form a comprehensive paragraph!
Cocaine is a hell of a drug!
His claims were refuted almost immediately here:
He's a loony. His claims are all based on pseudoscience. When it comes to ancient astronauts--a least as claimed by Von Daniken-- its best to invoke Occam's Razor and move on.
RAMA
Writing pseudoscientific claptrap to dupe the uncritical masses is probably a more profitable and less risky source of income than fraud.
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
Von Daniken was one of the most widely known and popular of the cryptoarchaeologists, but also one of the most sloppy.
Others, like Graham Hancock are much better at documentation.
Others, like Graham Hancock are much better at documentation.
None of that explains anything. It's just a glorified "unt-uh"...
People like to try to tear him down, but the counter arguments aren't any more convincing than his theory.
Until there's definitive evidence against Von Daniken's claims then I will keep an open mind to his theories...
That Ronald Story link doesn't point to anything, Rama. It just opens a wikipedia editing page.
Here's a good online critique.
you know if it was NOT just the crack that fucked me up long ago but still I try to recover as best I can. And still just because I did not go to the same college you did, or even graduate from any college because I disagreed with most of teachers methods and needed to get on with my life as an artist not a teacher teaching teaching or worse yet getting graded on Englishes' correct structures of thought representations in the intent that the cause of said representations are pointless usually. *aside* just for me to put words down is a task as an experimental visual video artist/musician .,
If you don't like what I type that is fine but if you just going to critique the grammar get off my spaceship Earth where we try to help our fellow passengers.
I know there is this stupid saying it is better to understand then be understood which I really hate because no-one, and then sometimes, not even do I, understand my-selves as the can be expressed with in time and space.
I have become accustomed to this ranting thing sorry not a flamer by nature just reactionary some times dammit I want to now delete all this fire. but hey what ever.
back to topic
It is the book that tries to put a square peg in a round hole I don't know how else to state that. The conclusions are off.
visited by aliens? yep that would be the human alien right? the person you least expect is an alien .,,
If we think about things enough and it all makes sense somehow.
There can be multiple levels and dimensions within multiple realities occurring simultaneously as well and coexisting in harmony to each other ., so what.,
right now ., or then it will occur to us some way shape of form.
Unt-uh!!! No it isn't!
Look, until they can adequately explain how Egyptian slaves (and other cultures) managed to build these huge pyramids in as short of a time as they did -- quarying and moving huge blocks in a relatively short period of time on pure "slave power" -- then I shall remain dubious of any "conventional" explanations.
That explanation is just as ridiculous as anything Von Daniken came up with. If slave power were used to create the pyramids, then they'd pretty much still be dragging those huge blocks of stone across the desert today.
The pyramid mystery is but one thing I can point to.
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