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Chariot of the gods

It's not ridiculous to believe people could do these monumental things in pre-industrial times. To think they couldn't is just modern arrogance. Whether or not the "internal ramp" theory for the pyramids is correct, it is a plausible solution to the problem, and illustrates that people could build such a thing in a reasonable amount of time. It certainly stretches credibility far less than aliens traveling billions and billions of miles to teach or help people build these structures.

Seriously, much of von Däniken's "evidence" is sloppy misreading of historical artifacts. For instance: Mayan Spaceman or Something More Prosaic? Anyone with a passing familiarity with mesoamerican art could tell you that's not an unusual image, and that much of the iconography there is pretty standard stuff for artwork of that time...it's just that if you don't know what you're looking at, you'll see something the way it relates to what you see in your culture, not what's actually being depicted: like seeing the shape of a bunny in clouds. von Däniken's mistake was not realizing or denying he was playing what do you see in the clouds. "I see an astronaut! Whoosh!" Heck, some people KNOW what it is, then still insist on ridiculous interpretations that rival some of the discussions of fictional startships on this site. Here's a great example of someone knowing what he's looking at and deluding himself into seeing something that's not there...going to laughable lengths to turn a depiction of a religious idea into some kind of Mayan Transformer. Bah!
 
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Who here has read this book?
What is its scientific impact?
Is it the inspiration for bsg?

I read it, Von Daniken has admitted to essentially making up evidence and most of his theories have been discredited. He likes to find mysteries and discrepancies (and sometimes takes observed fact) and assign the ET belief system to them, not the other way around like, you know, actual scientists do things. It was entertaining but that's about it.

I say this as a person who is inclined to believe this planet has been visited by aliens at some point in the past and perhaps today, so I'm not a hard-nosed sceptic bashing away.

I read that book many years ago, in fact it's one of the few books i've actually bothered to read and I enjoyed it.
Wow.

Certainly explains a lot.
 
Who here has read this book?
What is its scientific impact?
Is it the inspiration for bsg?

I say this as a person who is inclined to believe this planet has been visited by aliens at some point in the past and perhaps today, so I'm not a hard-nosed sceptic bashing away.


Huh? You believe the Earth has been visited in the past but can't buy into Von Daniken's theory?

That doesn't make any sense. :wtf:

How can you separate one from the other? If aliens visited in the past, then they would have had some impact on human history/development...

I believe in exactly the same way Von Daniken describes using the WW2 pilots visiting the natives in the South Pacific example*. In those, it is explained that a religious cult developed around the return of the pilots -- the point they were even building effigies to them in the form of a reproduction of one of their planes!

*See the film Chariots of The Gods or The History Channel's Ancient Aliens.
 
I say this as a person who is inclined to believe this planet has been visited by aliens at some point in the past and perhaps today, so I'm not a hard-nosed sceptic bashing away.


Huh? You believe the Earth has been visited in the past but can't buy into Von Daniken's theory?

That doesn't make any sense. :wtf:

They are not mutually inclusive, I don't think you're being as astute as wish you were. I don't "buy into" anything, I do my research and look at the evidence.

I don't believe VD's evidence because some of it is made up and some of it has been proven false. His conclusions are often contrary to evidence he conveniently leaves out. The reasoning behind his theories comes from the false assumption that ancient people simply couldn't have done it by themselves, everything else flows from that dogma. I could go on, but there are plenty of sceptic videos and websites out there that dubunk him in more detail than I feel like doing in this thread.

I think (I'm not positive) that we may have been visited by something (interplanetary, extradimensional, I don't know) for completely different reasons. One of them is personal and no, it doesn't involve little green men or anal probes, I've heard all the jokes. :)
 
Huh? You believe the Earth has been visited in the past but can't buy into Von Daniken's theory?

That doesn't make any sense. :wtf:

I think (I'm not positive) that we may have been visited by something (interplanetary, extradimensional, I don't know) for completely different reasons. One of them is personal and no, it doesn't involve little green men or anal probes, I've heard all the jokes. :)

Even though I myself have not conclusively seen a UFO -- as in "ET craft"...I would never laugh at or belittle anyone who claims to have had some kind of UFO/ET experience.

I have a completely open mind on this topic, as you can see by my stance on the ancient astronaut topic.

For any final "kool-aid drinking", I would need to see some evidence, but I would never say never...

Barring any unpleasant aspects of the encounter, I would be envious of anyone who actually and irrefutably had a "close encounter".
 
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