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Convoluted must mean different things in different cultures.

Complex or intricate reasoning. They made her XO over more qualified and higher ranking officers (including the apparent second officer Nilsson and anyone from present-day Starfleet), and it must be tied in with her position as a Command Trainee.
 
They went through all the convoluted trouble to make Tilly an XO, I don't think she's going to have that taken away.
However, when the final scene of season 3 was filmed, Mary Wiseman wore a uniform with a red stripe on it, only for it to be digitally altered to blue in the finished episode. Which could suggest a decision was made between filming and editing that Tilly would no longer be the XO.
 
Complex or intricate reasoning. They made her XO over more qualified and higher ranking officers (including the apparent second officer Nilsson and anyone from present-day Starfleet), and it must be tied in with her position as a Command Trainee.
Which is not convoluted. She was made the XO by the acting captain due to his personal choice. That's not convoluted. That's a captain's prerogative.

Whether it was an appropriate choice is up for debate and continuously so.
 
From another thread here: How about Captain Wesley Crusher?

He was a Lt. j.g. (for some "convoluted" reason) two years earlier, and also a former Academy delinquent and dropout. Anybody can become Captain if they want, but the show's attention to detail makes me doubt they'd put anyone in that doesn't make a little sense.
 
He was a Lt. j.g. (for some "convoluted" reason) two years earlier

Oh Nemesis takes place only two years prior to LD? I honestly didn't know that (or what rank he might have in that movie) since I pay so little attention to the TNG movies (or really any Star Trek movie that isn't the Undiscovered Country)

Pity, Captain Wesley might have been fun.
 
He was a Lt. j.g. (for some "convoluted" reason) two years earlier, and also a former Academy delinquent and dropout. Anybody can become Captain if they want, but the show's attention to detail makes me doubt they'd put anyone in that doesn't make a little sense.
He dropped out and then returned at some point, having to start over again?
 
Yeah, that's it...:rolleyes:

TBH though they did need something to get Saru out of the captain's chair, since they wanted Michael in it. Since they didn't want to kill him and lose the character, the options were basically either demotion or stepping aside willingly.

If I were to hazard a guess, I would say early drafts had him openly demoted, and then there was a rewrite, because how it went down was a bit confusing.
 
TBH though they did need something to get Saru out of the captain's chair, since they wanted Michael in it. Since they didn't want to kill him and lose the character, the options were basically either demotion or stepping aside willingly.

If I were to hazard a guess, I would say early drafts had him openly demoted, and then there was a rewrite, because how it went down was a bit confusing.
Even if true it has nothing to do with "the greatness of Michael " and everything to do with the story they wanted to tell. More so, it's not an automatic negative thing on Saru, unless making mistakes and having flaws is bad.
 
Noted, apologies for posting something else before I saw this. Will keep my discussions to Lower Decks.
Nah, you're good. This seems to be a harmless excursion so far. Just want to make sure people leave arguments from other subfora where they belong.
 
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