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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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DrCorby said:
I agree, the dialogue didn't feel natural or have that stylized Star Trek cadence.

I think one of the things that made the script (and I read the whole thing) feel like fan writing was the presence of characters that would later be in Star Trek episodes as Starfleet captains -- Ron Tracy and Matt Decker. (I didn't recognize the other two drinking at that table.) While professional novels from Pocket sometimes use known characters in unexpected places, these just felt especially contrived. With mannerisms that point towards their later filmed actions. It just seemed to scream, "See what I did here?! See?! Aren't I clever?!" Just waaay over the top. And of course, learning pearls of wisdom from Garth by the end of the story.
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Well, that's what this was for.
1) Give the faithful something to latch onto that screamed 'Star Trek!" by adding Tracy and Decker
2) 'Foreshadow' the later canon events by lifting them, 100%, from stuff written by pros
3) Make them deferential to Garth in the extreme - Captain on the bridge notwithstanding, people like Saru, Sulu, Worf, Kyra, Chakotay, and Mayweather are all obedient to their captain but they never appear servile. Even Travis, who is an Ensign and stays that way, and with no mysterious alien blood, does not kowtow to Archer. He respects him and he follows his captain's orders. But it's never this toadyish.
4) And of course Garth offers the big-time lesson.

It's not a comic. It's a 'very special episode'.
 
The J-Lane short story was also:

1) A way to keep the Faithful excited, and hopefully prime a few of them to open their wallets when The Mediocrity comes a-calling
2) Expand this notion of an "Axanar Timeline/Universe" overseen of course by Alec and his GateKeepers.
 
carlosp said:
On AxaMonitor: In that atmosphere, Peters claimed the fan film community begged CBS for fan film guidelines. ” We were all going, ‘give us some guidelines, give us some guidelines.'” CBS refused.
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While I'm not part of the fan-film community, I've been on this board since well before the Guidelines came out, and I don't remember reading much clamor for them. The only voice I ever heard in favor of Guidelines was Mr. Peters. On the other hand, I heard a lot of other people say, "Here, these are the guidelines we've all been living under with no push-back from CBS."
 
Wait, that was at an actual convention? I thought you guys were being sarcastic.
I understand not every con can be SDCC, but that has got to be one of the cheapest looking set ups for a panel I have ever seen.
I'm trying to figure out if Peters is actually as delusional as he sounds here, or if he was just trying to impress the massive crowd of devoted followers who were there.
 
Sgt_G said:
While I'm not part of the fan-film community, I've been on this board since well before the Guidelines came out, and I don't remember reading much clamor for them. The only voice I ever heard in favor of Guidelines was Mr. Peters. On the other hand, I heard a lot of other people say, "Here, these are the guidelines we've all been living under with no push-back from CBS."
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Alec is the one who wanted guidelines. He even at one point tried to get all the other fan film makers together to propose guidelines to CBS for them to enact and most of them wanted nothing to do with Alec or his guidelines. of course Alec's proposed guidelines had so many loopholes in them you could drive a starship through like "no selling merchendise with the name star trek or the delta logo on it". So that would have made all of axanar's merchendise including axanar coffee just fine.

Alec only wanted guidelines because he wanted to find a way around them and then be able to say "but this isn't prohibitted so I can do what I want"
 
JD said:
Wait, that was at an actual convention? I thought you guys were being sarcastic.
I understand not every con can be SDCC, but that has got to be one of the cheapest looking set ups for a panel I have ever seen.
I'm trying to figure out if Peters is actually as delusional as he sounds here, or if he was just trying to impress the massive crowd of devoted followers who were there.
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Yes it was a real con. The dealers got prime locations at the good court with some foot traffic. The rest of the con back is a dead hallway where the anchor store (Macy's) had been gone for years. The Axanar Panel was in the back room of the Health Learning Network store.

If you want an idea of what the con looked like and how far in the back unused hallway Axanar was watch this
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Krandor said:
Alec is the one who wanted guidelines. He even at one point tried to get all the other fan film makers together to propose guidelines to CBS for them to enact and most of them wanted nothing to do with Alec or his guidelines. of course Alec's proposed guidelines had so many loopholes in them you could drive a starship through like "no selling merchendise with the name star trek or the delta logo on it". So that would have made all of axanar's merchendise including axanar coffee just fine.

Alec only wanted guidelines because he wanted to find a way around them and then be able to say "but this isn't prohibitted so I can do what I want"
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Yeah, that was one of the most sadly hilarious episodes of the whole saga.

Peters: "We just want guidelines, can't you give us guidelines?"
CBS / Paramount: "Here you go."
Peters: "NO, NOT THESE GUIDELINES!"
 
Timby said:
Yeah, that was one of the most sadly hilarious episodes of the whole saga.

Peters: "We just want guidelines, can't you give us guidelines?"
CBS / Paramount: "Here you go."
Peters: "NO, NOT THESE GUIDELINES!"
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Peters : Here I made guidelines for you. Use these because they are what the fans and fan film makers want
CBS / Paramount : Thanks but we are happy with the ones we did.
 
Krandor said:
Yes it was a real con. The dealers got prime locations at the good court with some foot traffic. The rest of the con back is a dead hallway where the anchor store (Macy's) had been gone for years. The Axanar Panel was in the back room of the Health Learning Network store.

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Holy shit that is depressing...........
 
Maurice said:
"“The studio missed the opportunity to create a whole new paradigm in Hollywood about how a movie is funded...”
Lunacy.
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Both the paradign fo funding of movies and TV shows have both been broken and not by axanar.

Movies - Veronica Mars Movie
TV Shows - MST3K

The difference - both produced what they said they were going to.
 
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