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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Movies have been funded a hundred different ways. Ed Wood infamously got much of the backing for Plan 9 From Outer Space from J. Edward Reynolds, a devout Southern Baptist, with Wood and several cast members getting baptized to further the relationship. There's nothing groundbreaking here except the internet makes it easier to reach large numbers of potential backers.
 
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Maurice said:
Movies have been funded a hundred different ways. Ed Wood infamously got much of the backing for Plan 9 From Outer Space from J. Edward Reynolds, a devout Southern Baptist, with he and several cast members getting baptized to further the relationship. There's nothing groundbreaking here except the internet makes it easier to reach large numbers of potential backers.
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It's really unfortunate that if you substitute "suckers" for "backers" you pretty much describe the Axanar situation.
 
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The Axanar Panel was in the back room of the Health Learning Network store.

If you want an idea of what the con looked like and how far in the back unused hallway Axanar was watch this
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Honestly, this is the first thing that came to mind:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
 
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Yes it was a real con. The dealers got prime locations at the good court with some foot traffic. The rest of the con back is a dead hallway where the anchor store (Macy's) had been gone for years. The Axanar Panel was in the back room of the Health Learning Network store.

If you want an idea of what the con looked like and how far in the back unused hallway Axanar was watch this
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Wow, is this a normal thing? I've never heard of a con like this going on in the middle of a mall, most of the ones I've come across are at convention centers or hotels or places like that.
 
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Alec is the one who wanted guidelines. He even at one point tried to get all the other fan film makers together to propose guidelines to CBS for them to enact and most of them wanted nothing to do with Alec or his guidelines. of course Alec's proposed guidelines had so many loopholes in them you could drive a starship through like "no selling merchendise with the name star trek or the delta logo on it". So that would have made all of axanar's merchendise including axanar coffee just fine.

Alec only wanted guidelines because he wanted to find a way around them and then be able to say "but this isn't prohibitted so I can do what I want"
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Timby said:
Yeah, that was one of the most sadly hilarious episodes of the whole saga.

Peters: "We just want guidelines, can't you give us guidelines?"
CBS / Paramount: "Here you go."
Peters: "NO, NOT THESE GUIDELINES!"
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The legend speaks!

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All in regards to this article:
http://www.newsweek.com/star-trek-d...t-news-copyright-laws-creative-commons-831612

Axanar Productions settled in 2017 after the PR firestorm encroached upon pre-release hype for Star Trek Beyond. J.J. Abrams and director Justin Lin gave comment, forcing a consequential response from CBS and Paramount: official guidelines for future fan films.

These guidelines state: “CBS and Paramount Pictures are big believers in reasonable fan fiction and fan creativity, and, in particular, want amateur fan filmmakers to showcase their passion for Star Trek.” But dig a little deeper and the rules strongly suggest otherwise. Limiting fan films to 15 minutes, codifying loopholes around terms like “offensive” and “reasonable,” insisting on officially licensed merchandise and banning appearances from former Star Trek cast members, the official “Guidelines for Avoiding Objections” illustrate how copyright holders foster public enthusiasm and creativity only to the extent of their advantage.

The onerous guidelines are already widely contravened, including by ongoing fan productions. Fan Film Factor counted sixty fan films in the eight months after the guidelines were released. The predicted chilling effect never came. But the existence of the guidelines inspires a simple question: what makes CBS and Paramount Pictures the best arbiters of a creative response to Star Trek?

The default answer is simple: existing copyright law.
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Every time I think all of this insanity is finally slowing down, Alec goes and opens his mouth or puts his hands on his keyboard again.
 
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