YES!!! So true!!
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Sure, because then you'd have a fan film no different than any other. You don't raise $1 million without Kickstarter/Indiegogo and established union actors. Heck, without those things, he probably would have made his film already using existing sets and we would not even be discussing any of this.
And I think that's a mistake. You can't legislate against people determined to break the rules. Copyright infringement is already illegal. And it's not like CBS and Paramount needed to tell you that it's not okay to market coffee with their IP on the label without a license.
Since I mentioned the FTC, I remember a case involving a guy who was a career scam artist. Every couple of years, the agency would issue an order telling him to cease-and-desist, and then he'd claim to find some alleged loophole that allowed him to start up a new scam. Eventually the government cited him for criminal contempt and threw him in jail. Now, I don't want that to happen here; my point, again, is that you can't legislate against someone who thinks they're smarter than the person making the rules.
I don't think so, because he has worked in conjunction with Star Trek. He is featured on some DVD extras, and didn't he claim he worked as the historian or something?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around a 15 minute complete episode and setting $50,000 for a crowdfunding limit for each one. The dollar per minute is more than twice the standard but without the "Starpower" to draw to funding support becomes nearly impossible to raise.
They aren't saying you HAVE to spend 50 thousand dollars.
Thank you for the excuse to reuse this.
"ALEC PETERS! What have you been up to?! You come to me with this story about where my donations went?!"
"Judge, please! You can't do this to me!"
I 100% agree with you. However, I think the Guidelines were the result of:
- Justin Lin/JJ Abrams pleading to do some accommodation on this matter with the fans.
- The fact that Disney DOES have 'Star Wars Fan Film Guidelines'.
- They do realize they let this 'modern' fan film situation grow on it's own for 15+ years without really commenting (Until the actions of Axanar forced their hand.)
I will 100% bet the legal department was "This is a bad idea, but if you guys really want to..."
They still have the option to take him through discovery and file a summary judgment motion proving he was ripping off everyone, if that is true. Expensive, but it would discredit him forever with the fan and professional sides of Trek as well as potentially put him on the hook for costs.
Or offer him an out -- out of Trek forever, no new angles of any sort, whatever they do to enforce such agreements, with a Terminator thrown in.
As to whether others will scam... someone in some country will, no doubt. But the directors really really really wanted this, so I guess they are giving it a try.
Anytime, just give me a kickThank you for the excuse to reuse this.
It was right after he finished writing casting directing and filming their show.
ATTENTION Alec Peters: See how gentlemen behave. It might be fun to try it yourself.
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There's that word again.
I didn't have time to listen to the new interview. Does Alec phone his lifeline, Mike Bawden, during it?
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They can go after whoever they want. Guidelines just make it easier to single out Peter's and his ilk. They can still choose not to go after Continues, NV, Farragut, Potemkin, etc, if they choose not to. I am hoping this is how it works out.
The guidelines are like a hammer they can drop any time they feel like it without having to go through everything they are going through now, methinks...
Their passive/agressiveness seems to cause headaches more often than not. Going back to what you said (and something I totally agree with), if they would've dropped the hammer and nipped this in the bud once things started to mestasize (when the money *really* started to roll in), this mess would be nearly resolved by now.
Instead its been drug out and is sort of puzzling, as C/P hasn't reacted as you suggested and are merely playing this 'by the numbers' as it were. Why let things get this far? Why not come down against LFIM more forcefully? By continuing as is, they're almost enabling him.......
Who's to say they "let it get this far"? As of right now, we only have AP's word that C/P skipped the C&D process and went straight to a law suit. Anyone who knows anything about business should think that is very odd, to say the least. I truly suspect there WAS a C&D of some sort. It's only my got feeling with no "proof", mind you, but I will not be the least bit surprise if said proof comes to light some day.
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The guidelines could be boiled down to this:
1. Make your little fan movie if that's what makes you happy. We don't really care.
2. Unless you're Alec Peters. Don't be Alec Peters.
1. Make your little fan movie if that's what makes you happy. We don't really care.
2. Unless you're Alec Peters. Don't be Alec Peters.
Good links
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/25/an-open-letter-to-axnars-alec-peters-from-siike-donnelly/
http://grandnard.wix.com/axanards
There is also this......... (courtesy of TampAxanar)
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/25/an-open-letter-to-axnars-alec-peters-from-siike-donnelly/
http://grandnard.wix.com/axanards
There is also this......... (courtesy of TampAxanar)
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I'm finding the faux loyalty to privacy somewhat tiresome now. Originally Gossett wouldn't comment on Axanar proceedings at all and then last week we had that amazing and informative interview with the G & T show. By that calendar should expect him to confirm the "person who stayed" by name round about December?There is also this......... (courtesy of TampAxanar)
Plus, it's either Burnett or Peters so....
That said, I guess you could get competative betting odds on Kingsbury.
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