Because in private the assessment is not quite as bright?
We've known for months that these guys throw their toys at people when they're anxious.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Because in private the assessment is not quite as bright?
We've known for months that these guys throw their toys at people when they're anxious.
Toy-box gotta be pretty empty by now.
Cuz he's a turgid bash wanker?
We didn't start the fire.
It was always burnin', since the world's been turnin'
With profound apologies to Billy Joel, the man who made the soundtrack of my life
I am too lazy to replace all the fast talking bits of that song with Axanar related stuff, but "queen-bitch-whore" certainly deserves to be in the list.
IMO, the *prevailing narrative* here is that facts demonstrate the Axanar project as a business went so far beyond simple scope creep from current fan films, and appears to have violated so many legal and ethical boundaries both with fans and the studios, that it appears to be a scam.
The prevailing subnarrative may be that the leaders of the Axanar business are utterly recalictrant and abusive and ego driven in pursuing this business.
The prevailing sub-subnarrative of this thread, if there is one, may be that Axanar fans seem to by and large not be taking in the above, but grasping at straws that come along in hope that everything the Axanar business has done scammy might be made to go away.
Wouldn't it be nice if Mr. Abrams really was trying to validate Axanar? Why shouldn't the desires of those who backed Axanar still be fully fulfilled even if the project may be a scam, why should that matter? And so on.
Axanar fans need to come fully to face with the facts: these project leaders took most of a million of fan money and built themselves a studio and started paying ordinary studio positions to man it. They told fans it was ok to do this because it was part of an even bigger project, even though they had to know this wasn't acceptable to the studios. These project leaders set up sideline income streams selling unlicensed Trek IP, and don't even bother to report that income in their 'fully transparent' disclosures. These project leaders spent years claiming they were creating an "independent (license defying) Star Trek production company", again, assuring donors that this was perfectly ok because the Axanar management is experienced with and in with the studios. It became so serious that the studios went to court.
This is not the fan film you are looking for. If you want to focus on how amusing a tweezed out observation about this thread appears, instead of focusing on what the Axanar business has done to fans generally and their donors in particular, well in effect you are doing the Axanar management's bidding -- chasing distractions instead of focusing on the specific unacceptable conducts of the management of this so called fan film.
The use of "prevailing narrative" is getting to be right up there with "agenda" as code for "uncomfortable truths I'd like to dismiss without examination."
Its one of the best sellers at the picture reframing store.
This idea that fans have the power to bend the Hollywood executives who control Star Trek to their will is something that's baked into Star Trek fandom, all because of that one successful letter-writing campaign in 1968 that brought the show back for a third season. But here's the thing: that campaign 48 years ago was literally the last time that Star Trek fans were able to get Hollywood to change its mind and do what they wanted.
Remember the "Save Spock" campaign? Or the "Save Enterprise" campaign? In each case Paramount ignored the wishes of the fans and did what they were going to do anyway. And Star Trek was better for it. It's time for the fan community to realize that we do not control Star Trek's destiny in any meaningful way. We're like sports fans: the owner's going to do what he wants; it's up to each of us to decide whether to keep rooting for the team or not.
For some people it's really not enough to have their position validated in some way, anyone who ever opposed them must be shown to be so thoroughly wrong that they beg forgiveness for ever doubting the Right Ones and instantly defer to the Right Ones from here on out. I've found the behavior usually stems from a deep insecurity about the situation. In any case it's a very toxic behavior in individuals and communities.
But if we control the temperature at 350 F (176.667 C), we can bake a delicious pie.
Back to homework.
Isn't that a point that Dukat makes to Weyoun in DS9. I think this is a common thread in many discussions:
Dukat: A true victory is to make your enemy see they were wrong to oppose you in the first place. To force them to acknowledge your greatness.
Weyoun: Then you kill them?
Dukat: ...Only if it's necessary.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pie
What better example than managing to make even Axanar fans acknowledge the greatness of Beyond? That or a lawsuit? Notice Dukat does say "force them to acknowledge".
Really does come down to that, doesn't it. They're getting out lot lighter than they should have had any hope too, but that's not enough. Can't just take a small (not a) victory and act like the professionals they claim to be. No, that wouldn't serve they're little cult of personality at all, now would it.
I would wait to see the terms of the settlement to determine how lightly or not they are getting out.
Who knows, maybe David Gerrold will get his wish and CBS will adopt the Star Wars rules for fanfilms. You know, under five minutes, etc. That will sort of fuck Axanar. As well as make him a pariah because he fucked over the other fanfilms.
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