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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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"In 2016, a crack commando legal unit was sent to Valencia by a circuit court for a case they didn't get paid for. These men and women promptly escaped from a maximum security "WAREHOUSE" to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by fan film producers they survive as soldiers of jurisprudence. If you have a problem, if no one else will return your calls or emails, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The B-Team."

Sorry to say but if Newsweek 'Best Law Firm' ratings are anything to go by:

Given Loeb & Loeb LLP has a '1' in Entertainment Law - Motion Pictures & Television and a '2' in 'Copyright law' Nationally...
http://bestlawfirms.usnews.com/profile/loeb-loeb-llp/rankings/12975

And Winston & Strawn LLP has a '3' in Entertainment Law - Motion Pictures & Television Nationally and doesn't seen to be ranked at all for 'Copyright law' anywhere...
http://bestlawfirms.usnews.com/profile/winston-strawn-llp/rankings/3938

It looks like Axanar may have already engaged the 'B' team (at best) ;)
 
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Last one standing gets the community property?

Are we still on the klingon wedding, or back on Ares studio?

Bad um tishhhhh

The klingon language expanded a lot via fans though, so I can't see CBS going after any of that, it's one of those nice little bridges between the suits and the uniformed fans.
The Romulan language on the other hand is probably totally tie in media.
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Which is nonsense. Horizon proved it can deliver a product (similarly set up, people in front of green screens, but with an actual story, not just pieces to camera) for a fraction of the cost. Axanar has only proven it can devour its customer's money faster than a Dyson in a drug den.
Is "faster than a Dyson in a drug den" copyrighted? I'd love to use that, sometime.
 
This report http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/star-trek-lawsuit-debate-klingon-888419?facebook_20160428 is an attempt by some nutters to stop Paramount from claiming Klingonese is trademarked - though the report is wrong... It says that Klingon was first heard in Search for Spock but they spoke it in Motion Picture for the first time with what seems to be formed sentences

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Indeed, Memory Alpha reports
I thought what we heard the Klingons speaking in TMP was just a few random sentences, and that the actual language wasn't really developed until TSfS and TNG. This whole Klingon language debate is interesting, I can see both sides of the argument. It was created and developed by CBS/Paramount for Star Trek, so I can see why they think they own it, but it has really been embraced by the fans and become a language of it's own, so I can see the why people think it's expanded beyond something that can be copyrighted.
 
I would think if Paramount paid to have the language created, that they should be able to copyright it and sue if it is used in unlicensed commercial endeavors.

Klingon, according to wikipedia, developed around the vocabulary needs of Trek like spaceship component names, and is being expanded by a small group of enthusiasts so that it can become useful day to day.

The origin story tie to the entertainment property, and the small number of enthusiast rather than historically associated users suggests it should not be placed in the same category as a natural language.
 
Plus however widespread it becomes in usage, it still conjures up in most people's mind its inescapable source - the property Star Trek. While it may have a bit of a life of its own outside the canonical copyrighted works, it is not separate from them and arguably is unlikely to ever be viewed separately from them. You don't even have the wiggle room you have with Elvish (i.e. Elf is a race that appears in many works); 'Klingons' come from a single source, and always will. While the language remains so tightly tied to CBS/Paramount's copyrighted properties, I would see it as theirs to control.
 
I thought what we heard the Klingons speaking in TMP was just a few random sentences, and that the actual language wasn't really developed until TSfS and TNG. This whole Klingon language debate is interesting, I can see both sides of the argument. It was created and developed by CBS/Paramount for Star Trek, so I can see why they think they own it, but it has really been embraced by the fans and become a language of it's own, so I can see the why people think it's expanded beyond something that can be copyrighted.

It does not matter when something was created and/or expanded - it was created for Motion Picture
 
Klingon, according to wikipedia, developed around the vocabulary needs of Trek like spaceship component names, and is being expanded by a small group of enthusiasts so that it can become useful day to day.

The origin story tie to the entertainment property, and the small number of enthusiast rather than historically associated users suggests it should not be placed in the same category as a natural language.

I don't think there's really an issue with people wanting to use it or expand upon it, except when dealing with a commercial venture. As far as commercial ventures go, people should still have to license it from CBS. Just my opinion, nothing legal to back it up.
 
Given Loeb & Loeb LLP has a '1' in Entertainment Law - Motion Pictures & Television and a '2' in 'Copyright law' Nationally...
http://bestlawfirms.usnews.com/profile/loeb-loeb-llp/rankings/12975

And Winston & Strawn LLP has a '3' in Entertainment Law - Motion Pictures & Television Nationally and doesn't seen to be ranked at all for 'Copyright law' anywhere...
http://bestlawfirms.usnews.com/profile/winston-strawn-llp/rankings/3938
Hey thanks. Bookmarking them for longer examination.

Will I want to focus on NY for L&L -- LA for W&S because that's where the firms that represent each client are located?

How could I search for stats breakdowns out there like these on the individual attorneys; Ranahan&[the Guy] -- and [is it] David Grossman for L&L for, say 2015?

Are stats like this kept for judges? (What's the judge's name again?) How could I search to locate such a thing? Does such a thing even exist?
 
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