My apologies, I was looking at the wrong post.
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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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It's cool.
Not much that has come from the Axanar group has made sense, for a very long time.
...how much the fan agrees with the thesis that fans own the IP and the studio is stealing it from them? fwiw I would expect the postings are as heavily censored as ever, and it remains to be seen whether they would actually let such comments get through, or whether the attorneys have wrested the admin passwords for themselves.
Well, remember when I said the folks at Axanar took down their YouTube video of it? They did, BUT it seems they included it in their San Diego Comic Con promo - and that promo is still up, hosted by: moviemaniacsDE
The Vulcan scene they shot starts at 1:08 if you want to skip Mr. Peters self-mastubatory comments:
(IMO it also shows WHY they actually made the scene - as I don't think you could go to the San Diego Comic Con with the same film two years in a row and expect an exthusiastic response; so you cobble together three minutes of something and imply some progress, and voilla, the Axanar faitful fawn all over you yet again - and send money for the important things like Sushi lunches, and carpet squares for your offices.)
Thanks man, that will do just nicely. Now I will have a piece of Star Trek fail history the likes of which no man has ever known before. Still it feels like a scene that could of came out of the Enterprise TV series.
I didn't even make it beyond the question mark in the headline. That's where I stopped.
I didn't know that there was a question on whether Axanar was sued ... so why is there a question mark? lol
I didn't read the entirety, but it sounded to me like an Axanar supporter who was pretending to not be aware so he could put up an editorial a month late and call it "news."
Clearly though he is just a fan, and has no idea what he's talking about because most of what he says is just plain and simply not true.
He has no concept of the law. For example, this darling little quote:
"And who's to say whether a studio originally set up to produce a fan film must be torn down afterward? Or whether it's just the production company or the people that work for it that must not profit from the infringement?"
Answer: a judge.
"And who's to say whether a studio originally set up to produce a fan film must be torn down afterward? Or whether it's just the production company or the people that work for it that must not profit from the infringement?"
Answer: a judge.
Yes, but it's Mr. Alec peters, I wanted the reader to be clear he wasn't using any Axanar Donor funds per se - but hey who knows, maybe the celebration parties included the Hookers and Blow, along with the Sushi.By definition, masturbation can only be done to the self.
(Yeah, Okay. I'm REALLY reaching for a joke here, but probably failing miserably...
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Is it the Blu-rays no one watches or just the extra features? Whatever one thinks about the shared delusions of Axacult, I loved those extras on the TNG/Enterprise blus. A lot of love put into them.
Which is why it's sad to see RMB going down with the ship that is Axanar. Even Bill Hunt from The Digital Bits website (a site I love for news and views on film and it's advocacy for film preservation and restoration) is somehow on board this mess.
Is it their passion for Trek and film in general that blinds them to what many here had seen right from the beginning?
If someday, someone does a documentary like the one for "Superman Lives" about this whole Axanar saga, I would kickstart that, as long as they don't need to buy carpeting!
Might be time to rethink some of those favorites ... I know I have.
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I chalk it up to them wanting to relive their own glory days, while realizing, at the same time, that the Trek they love is in the past and will not be relevant to the future of the franchise.
I almost feel sorry for the few hundred Axanerds, who seem to be still enchanted by the flute’s sound, although the melody has changed and the volume has toned down a bit. Actually I live a 2 hours drive away from Hameln.
It’s sad, how naivete may lead to blindness and almost hate. In fact, that’s almost frightening.
Funny, though, is that these fans equate independent and professional with quality, as they fear CBS/Paramount takes away “their” funded movie “because of its quality”. Oh, boy! Their probable boycott of Beyond and the new series may indeed be shattering the very fabric of the entertainment industry...
It’s sad, how naivete may lead to blindness and almost hate. In fact, that’s almost frightening.
Funny, though, is that these fans equate independent and professional with quality, as they fear CBS/Paramount takes away “their” funded movie “because of its quality”. Oh, boy! Their probable boycott of Beyond and the new series may indeed be shattering the very fabric of the entertainment industry...
I think this is a great point and explains some of the vitriol that is aimed at modern Trek productions and the 'Axanar was so much better' thing. These are people who grew up with, and loved, one particular type of Trek, or a mixture of a couple of types. The modern movies, and the prospect of a TV show which resembles today's Netflix Originals isn't what they loved, and what they loved will never get made again. I get that, and I get that it can be sad that something you really enjoyed is truly over, if you have no liking for its modern reincarnation (BSG has certainly had that issue). Where the delusion comes in is believing that 'all true fans' share your view, or should do, and acting astonished and hurt when that isn't the case. Phrases like 'Bad Robot plant' being thrown around with no apparent irony, because they can't fathom the concept that others may enjoy the modern direction of the franchise as much as or even more than they liked the stuff from the 1980s.
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Indeed, and believe me there are times I wish I was a kid again, watching the latest episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, but that is gone. Yet, there are children now who get to experience the same thing, but in a new format I couldn't have dreamed of 25 years ago, and they'll dream the same dreams and have the same hopes that I did, before the realities of life crushed those dreams into subatomic particles, never to be dreamed again.
This is the future, this is Star Trek re-imagining itself while holding to its roots, and it's something to be celebrated. The past adventures of our favorite Star Trek incarnations aren't gone. We can relive them, to a degree, any time we want, but at some point we had to grow up. It's not our Star Trek anymore, not as we knew it, but that doesn't mean we can't love it as well.
That's putting the positive spin on things.
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Well, I'm a font of optimism.
God I do remember watching TNG in first run though. I wish I had that kind of imagination now. The back of a sofa just can't be Worf's console in my head anymore.
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Aw, yeah.
For me it was my bunk bed. Our room (my brother and me) had a 13" black and white television, and I could watch TNG when I should have been asleep. The top bunk became Worf's tactical station, while the bottom bunk was the command deck.
I know this was not why you quoted this, but are there really so many John Muenchraths out there that he has to use his middle initial?There's a good chance that they're maneuvering for a Star Wolf conversion. That may have always been the back-up plan.
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Not to get sidetracked, but there are multiple Greg Schnitzers in the movie biz and in IMDb. I'm always professionally credited as "Gregory L. Schnitzer" to avoid any confusion with that other Greg Schnitzer. People I work with just always refer to me as Gregory L. Schnitzer now out of habit. Maybe the same thing happens when Alec refers to Doc John as "John K. Muencrath." Maybe it's a crediting thing,
"Why do people always say 'Michael J. Fox?' Are there so many 'Michael Fox'es out there? Do people really think others might assume some 'Michael Fox' other than the Marty McFly Guy?"
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