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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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If you wonder how all this could've happened, just read the first fan entry in the new version of the Captain's Log on the Axanar Productions site. This is the first entry of the new format of fan stories about why they like "Star Trek" and/or Axanar.

http://www.axanarproductions.com/a-change-in-the-captains-log-for-now/

Defies comment.

At this point, I wonder what Peters really thinks these "testimonials" are doing for his case.
People will do anything for a chance to win a free patch. Well, *almost* anything....

I don't disagree. He has yet to put his money where his mouth is, so to speak.
Check his posterior :p
 
Make sure you read the article though, and the comments. Alec chimes in!

This one was brought up a few pages back. At least in the comment section the blog author recognizes that you can pick and choose your copyright battles. But, continues on the "Why was Axanar singled out? It just did what everyone else was doing" line...

The blogger also doesn't think it's in the best interests of CBS to sue... that it could hurt them... lol
 
Anyone save the video? The scene has now been put on private. Just my luck I miss saving it before it happen. At this point, the way things are going that scene is the entire Axanar movie >.< and will probably stay that way. Can someone link it? I guess I should consider it a lost artifact of Axanar to never be seen again.
Well, remember when I said the folks at Axanar took down their YouTube video of it? They did, BUT it seems they included it in their San Diego Comic Con promo - and that promo is still up, hosted by: moviemaniacsDE
The Vulcan scene they shot starts at 1:08 if you want to skip Mr. Peters self-mastubatory comments:
(IMO it also shows WHY they actually made the scene - as I don't think you could go to the San Diego Comic Con with the same film two years in a row and expect an exthusiastic response; so you cobble together three minutes of something and imply some progress, and voilla, the Axanar faitful fawn all over you yet again - and send money for the important things like Sushi lunches, and carpet squares for your offices.:ack:)
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Vulcan scene is pretty lame. Typical George Lucas Prequel direction-- the slow walk-and-talk on green screen, the stop, the shot/reverse shot dialog, then one of them walks off and looks into the distance.
 
Another blogger that doesn't know anything about copyright law. No surprise, I guess.

http://theback40k.blogspot.com/2016/02/axanar-sued.html
Juries in the US also have the power, though it's not widely known, to judge the law as well as an infringement of that law. If they see a problem with how the law is being applied in this case, they can refuse to find fault on that basis alone, even if they believe the law to have actually been broken.

I looked, I looked, I looked, just in case I misremembered this. Are we talking about jury nullification here? 'Cause if we are, the chances of it applying here are pretty darned tiny.
 
I looked, I looked, I looked, just in case I misremembered this. Are we talking about jury nullification here? 'Cause if we are, the chances of it applying here are pretty darned tiny.

Tiny, but not impossible:

Jury nullification appeared at other times in our history when the government has tried to enforce morally repugnant or unpopular laws.

If somehow the jury feels that the production was well intentioned and doesn't hurt anyone, and that the lack of enforcement over previous productions created enough grey area-- or if the jury was made of Axanar supporters-- it could happen.

I think the fact that this is so rarely invoked makes it nearly impossible, however. It is I think intended for the most extreme circumstances, and I'd wager a judge would have a real problem if it were used in a copyright case.
 
I wonder how hard it would be to weed out all of the Axanar fans from a potential jury pool?
 
I looked, I looked, I looked, just in case I misremembered this. Are we talking about jury nullification here? 'Cause if we are, the chances of it applying here are pretty darned tiny.
Jury nullification was the first thing that came to my mind. While an acquittal in a criminal trial by jury nullification is final, in a civil case, the judge can invoke "judgment notwithstanding the verdict" and overturn the jury's decision. I would think the judge would do that if the jury found in favor of Axanar by jury nullification. CBS would certainly find ground to appeal, as well, I'd think.

In any case, jury nullification would be very, very, very, very, and very unlikely. As in, don't bet on it.
 
I wonder how hard it would be to weed out all of the Axanar fans from a potential jury pool?
There were what, 8000 donors worldwide?

The odds of stacking the jury with a sci-fi fans is small. Star Trek fans? Even smaller. Star Trek fans who are even aware of fan films? A tiny fraction of that. Star Trek fans who are aware of fan films AND have even heard of Axanar? Good luck.
 
Apparently all production has stopped. About four hours ago, Peters posted on the Axanar Fan Group site that since they won't go ahead with production until they've replied to CBS in court, he has no more updates about production to give in his Captain's Log. So, they are encouraging fans to email them what Axanar and "Star Trek" mean to them. The best ones will be posted daily in the Captain's Log. The best one of the week will get sent a "Starfleet Emergency Response" patch.

Isn't Alec handing CBS Exhibit A with this latest idea? Having fans wax poetic about how much they love Star Trek and how much Axanar reminds them of the "real" Star Trek? How Axanar was going to be even better than anything CBS/Paramount could do?
 
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