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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Make sure to message Burnett and tell him that money could have practically brought you the complete series of TNG on bluray.
But don't worry, you can still show your appreciation for CBS once you get that promised refund.
With that kinda coin laying around he could've just made the damn film outta pocket.
With that kinda coin laying around he could've just made the damn film outta pocket.
And saved himself the trouble of all this nonsense.
Kinda disproves his whole "I do this for love of Star Trek" nonsense.
If you look closely you can even see the indentation from the old medallion on the red-coloured neck piece.
I think thats more of a glue mark
With that kinda coin laying around he could've just made the damn film outta pocket.
And saved himself the trouble of all this nonsense.
Kinda disproves his whole "I do this for love of Star Trek" nonsense.
When you go back to the original Axanar thread, that Peters started himself, he said he was going to fund the film himself.... Any link to any kind of bragging about the 16 Million... that might just shut up a few Axanerds....
With that kinda coin laying around he could've just made the damn film outta pocket.
And saved himself the trouble of all this nonsense.
Kinda disproves his whole "I do this for love of Star Trek" nonsense.
Wait a minute. $16 million?!? Didn't he just go through bankruptcy proceedings? And had no assets? Or was that his other company Propwerx or whatever it's called?
Regardless, what's he doing with the $16 million that he couldn't drop into production of Axanar? Then again, I've heard: A producer never drops his money into a film.
I'm out $160 for this shit show. Was really excited to see the finished product too...
These guys are just a fucking joke. I donated to both of the 'feature' fundraisers....so I'm not likely to see ANY of the 'perks'. Kind of wish I had some of the Prelude perks as 'collectible' relics/conversation pieces.
Yes they are a joke and its on us sadly.
With that kinda coin laying around he could've just made the damn film outta pocket.
And saved himself the trouble of all this nonsense.
Kinda disproves his whole "I do this for love of Star Trek" nonsense.
Wait a minute. $16 million?!? Didn't he just go through bankruptcy proceedings? And had no assets? Or was that his other company Propwerx or whatever it's called?
Regardless, what's he doing with the $16 million that he couldn't drop into production of Axanar? Then again, I've heard: A producer never drops his money into a film.
Can anyone make any sense out of this?
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/vprr/0000/0505/05059249.pdf
Damn! I wish I had gotten that memo $100K ago.
With that kinda coin laying around he could've just made the damn film outta pocket.
And saved himself the trouble of all this nonsense.
Kinda disproves his whole "I do this for love of Star Trek" nonsense.
When you go back to the original Axanar thread, that Peters started himself, he said he was going to fund the film himself.... Any link to any kind of bragging about the 16 Million... that might just shut up a few Axanerds....
Anyone got a link or screenshots of this conversation?
Hahaha
With that kinda coin laying around he could've just made the damn film outta pocket.
And saved himself the trouble of all this nonsense.
Kinda disproves his whole "I do this for love of Star Trek" nonsense.
Wait a minute. $16 million?!? Didn't he just go through bankruptcy proceedings? And had no assets? Or was that his other company Propwerx or whatever it's called?
Regardless, what's he doing with the $16 million that he couldn't drop into production of Axanar? Then again, I've heard: A producer never drops his money into a film.
He actually said that he came out with little of the $16 million following the sale, and honestly that's not surprising. Between taxes and legal fees a good chunk of that could have been dried up. And apparently he did not get into hardcore prop collecting until 2008/09, so my guess is he sunk quite a bit of the remaining money left into his "hobby" which then became a new business.
Or he put it into his Warhammer collection. I mean -- damn.
LOL no kidding. Tell that to James who sinks a lot of his own money into NV, or Vic who sunk an intial $25k to get STC off the ground. The amount of money that personally comes out of the pockets of most fan productions is pretty staggering and goes to show how much of a "labor of love" these films are.
Axanar basically became a crowdfunded for profit sci-fi movie studio construction project using the promise of the most awesome Star Trek "fan film" EVER as the prize for fans. I guess I probably would not have such a beef if Axanar had been more forthcoming about that.
"Hey we really want to make this film, but first we need help building our own movie studio, so that after we make our Star Trek "fan film" we can rake in money on future for profit movies. Oh, BTW, we will probably come to you again for donations to make those movies as well... making movies is really, really expensive... AND I NEED TO PAY MY BILLS!!! C'mon you losers, giving a starving Trekkie a few bucks. Whadda ya say?"
The beginning of the end, I think was, when the Indigogo Campaign asked for another 1.3 Million dollars to make the film, and Some of us Donors were like WTF
When we pressed production why they needed additional funds, they started singing the praises of Ares Studios, and how it would be a hub for future commercial SCI FI Films, and we were all like, WTF
I think, Had they kept their traps shut about their plans for Ares Studios, and just stayed the course with the the explanations, "Other building fell through... costs have gone up.. our budget was wrong" they may have lost a few donors, but I don't necessarily think they would have attracted the attention of CBS/Paramount they way they did.
I find it interesting that he said I was supposedly working with him on the script for 6 months. That is not MY recollection at all. I don't know what time span it was over, but as he worked on it, he'd email me what he wrote and I'd give comments or suggestions from a writer's perspective because he was a friend of James Cawley's and was going to be doing this like James does New Voyages, and because Alec was friendly and listened to criticism (not always, but always nicely and politely) and while he didn't take all my advice because it was his work and not mine, I found him pleasant to chat with about it all.
As I said before, I do this for all sorts of folks, in email or in person (at writing workshops) and sometimes people offer to give me credit but I never am actually writing anything and it's not my work so I say it's not necessary. (To me, if I were writing it, I'd have a say as to what goes on the page, and that's not the case with any help I give. I just offer advice and suggestions from a CRAFT point of view.)
All that said, I am mystified by the attitude that even if CBS/Paramount say "stop this," the Axanar team wants to move forward. I don't get that. When you play in someone else's sandbox, and they turn a blind eye to it because you're not hurting them to do it, that's magnanimous of them. When the IP holder DOES say they have concerns and it's time for you to stop... YOU. STOP.
Just my two cents.
As I said before, I do this for all sorts of folks, in email or in person (at writing workshops) and sometimes people offer to give me credit but I never am actually writing anything and it's not my work so I say it's not necessary. (To me, if I were writing it, I'd have a say as to what goes on the page, and that's not the case with any help I give. I just offer advice and suggestions from a CRAFT point of view.)
All that said, I am mystified by the attitude that even if CBS/Paramount say "stop this," the Axanar team wants to move forward. I don't get that. When you play in someone else's sandbox, and they turn a blind eye to it because you're not hurting them to do it, that's magnanimous of them. When the IP holder DOES say they have concerns and it's time for you to stop... YOU. STOP.
Just my two cents.
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