Star Trek: Axanar: The Next Generation - coming in 2017 from Dracogen Strategic Investments!
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Star Trek: Axanar: The Next Generation - coming in 2017 from Dracogen Strategic Investments!
Can I see the knives?
I'm convinced that with over 546 hours in the Star Trek canon, there's bound to be a quote for nearly every conceivable occasion.
You sure? I don't remember it.
Only UK Trek story I remember is the guy who outfitted his flat like a TNG starship and ended up in jail for being a paedo.
My absolute favorite response to this whole thing appeared in the comments section of the Wall Street Journal article on the subject:
Sprinkling in the occasional misspelled Klingon word really makes an incoherent rage-gasm sound like a cogent argument, doesn't it? Also, what heck does "Mok!!" mean? I assume it's supposed to be Klingon, but it sounds like a cartoon sound effect.
I wish someone would call this guy as an expert witness.
I wonder what the other people who supported the production financially feel about him basically telling CBS/Paramount to not just sue anyone working for the production they feel are liable but to also press legal action against the backers too.
If I had donated even $1 I would be rather peeved at him right now for speaking for me.
Yup really does make you wonder
Yeah, except that nobody else earns a living off of it. Seriously, this isn't about just one fan film, this is about the whole community. The needs of "everyone else", collectively, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Unless you think Axanar is the Mr. Spock of fan films.
Lawsuits cost money to file and pursue. You usually file one against what you see as the most winnable entity; and AFTER you see the result (IE you prevail or lose, and see what their defense was and how a Judge viewed it) - THEN you begin filing others against people you see doing similar violations if you are so inclined.
(I'm sure Paramount/CBS see this as fairly open and shut case vs Axanar; but the interesting thing in civil law is there's rarely a '100% certain outcome' How they fare in this case will probably give then a template on how best to file and prosecute other cases of this type against other fan film groups should they decide to.)
Look, if CBS wins this then they can shut down any other Trek fan film for the cost of a registered letter.*
Because after this no one else will be so unhinged as to resist a direct instruction to stop.
*They can save the cost of a lawyer - the letter can be signed by an intern working in the mail room.
Because after this no one else will be so unhinged as to resist a direct instruction to stop.
*They can save the cost of a lawyer - the letter can be signed by an intern working in the mail room.
I think they either realized how serious the situation is or got a C&D. The main Axanar Coffee site was finally taken down.
The coffee site still appears for me - even has a 2016 copyright trademark
Still loads for me.
What gall.
In something he posted on the Axanar site back in August, he said, "we [his company] use less Star Trek IP than almost all of them [other fan film groups]." He talks about things he's gotten rid of, like the delta shield, and says that while they do use several Star Trek characters, they just "try to minimize that."
So it's not so much "everyone else is doing it" as "we do it less than others." Of course, no one has ever done it with a million dollars to spend and the almost explicit claim that this film would be a springboard for launching a new production company.
I think what he doesn't get is CBS doesn't feel threatened in any creative way at all by his project. What he can't see is it's simply wrong to try to make a living, or start a business enterprise using other people's property (for free).
Here are Peters' full remarks:
http://www.axanarproductions.com/axanar-and-cbs/
What gall.
I do not understand your reply
Being that Peters has such a hard-on for props and wardrobe from the shows and films ... is anyone else wondering if that outfit Hatch is wearing is perhaps the same one Christopher Plummer wore in Star Trek VI? It sure looks like it...
I see the site but no Axanar coffee links.
My absolute favorite response to this whole thing appeared in the comments section of the Wall Street Journal article on the subject:
Sprinkling in the occasional misspelled Klingon word really makes an incoherent rage-gasm sound like a cogent argument, doesn't it? Also, what heck does "Mok!!" mean? I assume it's supposed to be Klingon, but it sounds like a cartoon sound effect.
I wish someone would call this guy as an expert witness.
Well as someone who pledged/'donated' to the first Axanar Feature Film KS - I hope I'm NOT included in any such class action suit against Paramount/CBS and I DON'T want any part of it as Paramount/CBS are definitely within their rights to sue Axanar Productions over copyright infringement. If I thought I could get my Pledge of $75 back; I'd certainly be happy to be part of a civil fraud lawsuit against Axanar - as the KS stated all funds would go toward the production of the proposed film (and not to salaries for Mr. Peters, his wife, and others; and certainly not to airfare/hotel rooms/tickets/media dealer tables at various Star Trek Conventions, etc.)
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