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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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So, in other news, they unearthed over 200 floppy disks that belonged to Gene Roddenberry today. Not a single document said IStandWithAxanar...
 
This whole situation reminds me of that CSI Episode "A Space Oddity." Where someone tried doing a NuBSG reboot of "Astro Quest." :rommie:
 
I think STNV and STC might be ok, based on the fact that what they're doing is making new episodes of a 50 year old cancelled tv show. (Note that STC complied with the request to change its logo, presumably to avoid confusion.)

Axanar, in contrast, can be seen as in direct competition with the new stuff CBS and Paramount are producing.

Add to that the salaries and merch, and BOOM. Heads explode.

I think that they'll be fine, but I think that they may get more restricted in what is and is not allowed to happen.
 
I think STNV and STC might be ok, based on the fact that what they're doing is making new episodes of a 50 year old cancelled tv show. (Note that STC complied with the request to change its logo, presumably to avoid confusion.)

Axanar, in contrast, can be seen as in direct competition with the new stuff CBS and Paramount are producing.

Add to that the salaries and merch, and BOOM. Heads explode.

I think that they'll be fine, but I think that they may get more restricted in what is and is not allowed to happen.

STC also filed for tax-exempt non-profit status, as I noted on my blog today. This means they have to file fairly detailed financial reports and disclosure statements with the IRS. I reviewed the bulk of the materials today and it goes far beyond what Peters and Axanar put out in their annual report.

To be clear, Axanar Productions is a closely held for-profit business corporation. Legally, Peters doesn't have to disclose a damn thing to the public. But by seeking nonprofit status and going through the IRS, STC is at least making an effort to show CBS it is complying with its non-profit requirement for unlicensed productions.
 
I think STNV and STC might be ok, based on the fact that what they're doing is making new episodes of a 50 year old cancelled tv show. (Note that STC complied with the request to change its logo, presumably to avoid confusion.)

Axanar, in contrast, can be seen as in direct competition with the new stuff CBS and Paramount are producing.

Add to that the salaries and merch, and BOOM. Heads explode.

I think that they'll be fine, but I think that they may get more restricted in what is and is not allowed to happen.

STC also filed for tax-exempt non-profit status, as I noted on my blog today. This means they have to file fairly detailed financial reports and disclosure statements with the IRS. I reviewed the bulk of the materials today and it goes far beyond what Peters and Axanar put out in their annual report.

To be clear, Axanar Productions is a closely held for-profit business corporation. Legally, Peters doesn't have to disclose a damn thing to the public. But by seeking nonprofit status and going through the IRS, STC is at least making an effort to show CBS it is complying with its non-profit requirement for unlicensed productions.
I haven't read today's blog post yet, but I have enjoyed reading previous ones. Thanks for doing the work. It's very informative.

STC's efforts to keep everything above board is encouraging. It's my favorite fan production and I'd hate to see it go away.
 
I think that they'll be fine, but I think that they may get more restricted in what is and is not allowed to happen.

STC also filed for tax-exempt non-profit status, as I noted on my blog today. This means they have to file fairly detailed financial reports and disclosure statements with the IRS. I reviewed the bulk of the materials today and it goes far beyond what Peters and Axanar put out in their annual report.

To be clear, Axanar Productions is a closely held for-profit business corporation. Legally, Peters doesn't have to disclose a damn thing to the public. But by seeking nonprofit status and going through the IRS, STC is at least making an effort to show CBS it is complying with its non-profit requirement for unlicensed productions.
I haven't read today's blog post yet, but I have enjoyed reading previous ones. Thanks for doing the work. It's very informative.

STC's efforts to keep everything above board is encouraging. It's my favorite fan production and I'd hate to see it go away.

Having done a good deal of nonprofit filings back in the day, I have to say STC's filings are exceptionally well done. I've never seen any of their episodes, but the guys running the operation clearly know how to talk to the IRS.

While I'm on the subject, and in response to Peters' comments that STC also pays people, a couple of notable items from the STC filings:

(1) "[STC] has no employees; it has many volunteers and a few professional independent contractors. As with the directors above, these individuals do receive expense reimbursements not exceeding $1000 per episode or, to date, $2000 per tax year."

(2) "ome of the professional 'guest stars,' episode directors, stage managers, cinematographers, video editors, special effects experts, etc. have been compensated in sums approaching $4000 per year – about $500-$2500 per episode, depending on the skill level. All are working for approximately 10% of the amount they would usually bill a for-profit production company."
 
CBS is keeping watch on a lot of stuff and taking action.

I really think they should directly issue a statement to notify everyone at once what their intentions are rather than having this sort of thing just filter through via hearsay and rumor.
 
The comments on the Enterprise-D Restoration Facebook link are gold. Particularly Peters:
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Peters and others are all over there. Even Paul Dykstra is defending Axanar. I'm not sure if this is reality anymore, or just fantasy.

Do you have the exact link for this? Just click on the time for the post. That would help a great deal; many thanks! :)
 
CBS is keeping watch on a lot of stuff and taking action.

I really think they should directly issue a statement to notify everyone at once what their intentions are rather than having this sort of thing just filter through via hearsay and rumor.

There were the comments on Reddit the other day from the Enterprise-D Project.

Long story short: a poster, claiming to be with that Project, said CBSLegal was planning to go after several Fan Projects this year.
 
CBS is keeping watch on a lot of stuff and taking action.

I really think they should directly issue a statement to notify everyone at once what their intentions are rather than having this sort of thing just filter through via hearsay and rumor.

Just remember, kids, CBS lawyers are like vampires: They cannot come into your house unless you invite them in. But garlic has no effect on them.

But seriously, this is an unfortunate problem you often find with corporate lawyers. They prefer not to say what you can and can't do outright. They wait for you to do something and then tell you it's bad. I saw this nonsense all the time covering antitrust.
 
STC also filed for tax-exempt non-profit status, as I noted on my blog today. This means they have to file fairly detailed financial reports and disclosure statements with the IRS. I reviewed the bulk of the materials today and it goes far beyond what Peters and Axanar put out in their annual report.

To be clear, Axanar Productions is a closely held for-profit business corporation. Legally, Peters doesn't have to disclose a damn thing to the public. But by seeking nonprofit status and going through the IRS, STC is at least making an effort to show CBS it is complying with its non-profit requirement for unlicensed productions.
I haven't read today's blog post yet, but I have enjoyed reading previous ones. Thanks for doing the work. It's very informative.

STC's efforts to keep everything above board is encouraging. It's my favorite fan production and I'd hate to see it go away.

Having done a good deal of nonprofit filings back in the day, I have to say STC's filings are exceptionally well done. I've never seen any of their episodes, but the guys running the operation clearly know how to talk to the IRS.

While I'm on the subject, and in response to Peters' comments that STC also pays people, a couple of notable items from the STC filings:

(1) "[STC] has no employees; it has many volunteers and a few professional independent contractors. As with the directors above, these individuals do receive expense reimbursements not exceeding $1000 per episode or, to date, $2000 per tax year."

(2) "ome of the professional 'guest stars,' episode directors, stage managers, cinematographers, video editors, special effects experts, etc. have been compensated in sums approaching $4000 per year – about $500-$2500 per episode, depending on the skill level. All are working for approximately 10% of the amount they would usually bill a for-profit production company."

You really should watch them. They're doing good work, and getting better with every episode.

Instead of bashing Vic and STC, Peters should have been studying that operation and learning how to do it the right way. But ego and ambition have been the downfall of many a great man, and a buttload of not so great ones. ;)
 
Slightly off topic, but lets make these guys honorary members of the forum

Each disk more pornographic than the last.

Given these are 5.25 floppies, all 200 probably contain a total of three pictures at best. :lol:

From some rumours I have heard, could be nudies of Nichelle!

I'm curious... Is it possible for an actor in the US to "waive" their fee

From my understanding SAGafra members have to be paid at least scale... But can donate that back to the production should they choose...

So they have to be paid unlike in the UK where they can simply "waive" the fee
 
I haven't read today's blog post yet, but I have enjoyed reading previous ones. Thanks for doing the work. It's very informative.

STC's efforts to keep everything above board is encouraging. It's my favorite fan production and I'd hate to see it go away.

Having done a good deal of nonprofit filings back in the day, I have to say STC's filings are exceptionally well done. I've never seen any of their episodes, but the guys running the operation clearly know how to talk to the IRS.

While I'm on the subject, and in response to Peters' comments that STC also pays people, a couple of notable items from the STC filings:

(1) "[STC] has no employees; it has many volunteers and a few professional independent contractors. As with the directors above, these individuals do receive expense reimbursements not exceeding $1000 per episode or, to date, $2000 per tax year."

(2) "ome of the professional 'guest stars,' episode directors, stage managers, cinematographers, video editors, special effects experts, etc. have been compensated in sums approaching $4000 per year – about $500-$2500 per episode, depending on the skill level. All are working for approximately 10% of the amount they would usually bill a for-profit production company."

You really should watch them. They're doing good work, and getting better with every episode.

Instead of bashing Vic and STC, Peters should have been studying that operation and learning how to do it the right way. But ego and ambition have been the downfall of many a great man, and a buttload of not so great ones. ;)


Hey, the Star Trek Continues IRS filings may be the best Trek-related lit I've read in a long time.

And I haven't seen most of these fan films, to be honest. I've seen a couple of Farragut and thought they were quite good. I was actually quite impressed they did their open Animated Series episodes, as I love me some cheap, Filmation-style animation.
 
I'm curious... Is it possible for an actor in the US to "waive" their fee

Probably not, but there is absolutely nothing stopping an actor from being paid scale and then turning around and writing a check for the exact same amount and donating it into a project. It's their money by then, and of course they can do with it as they please.
 
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