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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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this is not a professional financial report

I think the term "financial report" is kind of a misnomer. The people reading this aren't IRS auditors or accountants. It's donors who probably know just as little about accounting as he does. They just want to feel that their money was spent wisely and nobody was exploiting the situation. And according to the wording of the report, he felt every expenditure other than damaging the dolly was justified in order to pull off the quality they were after. I wouldn't assume he doesn't have all receipts handy to be able to produce a more detailed report later if requested. I just wouldn't assume that what's present here is the best he can possibly do.
 
this is not a professional financial report

I think the term "financial report" is kind of a misnomer. The people reading this aren't IRS auditors or accountants. It's donors who probably know just as little about accounting as he does. They just want to feel that their money was spent wisely and nobody was exploiting the situation. And according to the wording of the report, he felt every expenditure other than damaging the dolly was justified in order to pull off the quality they were after. I wouldn't assume he doesn't have all receipts handy to be able to produce a more detailed report later if requested. I just wouldn't assume that what's present here is the best he can possibly do.

These points are all well taken. But I still have one question: Why didn't Peters hire an accountant to do this report for him? The report indicates he's only now consulting with an accountant to prepare tax filings. If you're raising upwards of $1 million, shouldn't the accountant already be in place and able to prepare your reports?
 
Regardless of what anyone on the Axanar side of things say, the project's dead as a doornail.

Whilst I‘m kind of enjoying the fuss and have no sympathy whatsoever (if fact, if they take the other fanfilm groups down with them, exactly the opposite), I'd have liked to have seen the damned thing.

What do you think the chances of the script leaking are, someone writing it up as fanfic, or even another group making it, maybe animated or as an audio drama ?
 
Two things I watched recently are now reminding me of this situation.

1.) The Simpsons - I'm watching the episode with the Good Guy Awards right now. Krusty comes out and sings the first line of a song then stops midlyric. He screams "Stop the music. We sing one more word we have to pay for the whole song!"

2.) DS9: Way of the Warrior - The Battle of DS9 reminds me of this too. The Klingon Fleet is attacking DS9 and reinforcements arrive. The only problem for Axanar is the reinforcement in this situation are the lawyers...
 
Two things I watched recently are now reminding me of this situation.

1.) The Simpsons - I'm watching the episode with the Good Guy Awards right now. Krusty comes out and sings the first line of a song then stops midlyric. He screams "Stop the music. We sing one more word we have to pay for the whole song!"

Funny, I haven't been able to get the darn "Monorail" song out of my head since this whole thing began.

"I've sold Star Trek fan films to Brockaway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum, it put them on the map!"
 
If the script leaked (Is it even finished?) I don't see any other production touching it with a ten-feet pole. That would be just asking for CBS and Paramount to come down hard on them.
 
This transparency is what is actually hurting him here. While it is a good notion being transparent with the fans, something's should remain private. The other productions are not putting out annual reports. They get the money they need and actually film something.

Although Star Trek Continues has filed for tax-exempt, nonprofit status with the IRS. I've been looking over their filings, which are quite thorough and actually put Axanar's transparency to shame. I'll be posting on this, probably tomorrow.

Probably due to the fact that, unlike Alec Peters, Vic Mignogna has been a working actor and filmmaking/production professional for at least two decades and has more insight on what goes into working in the industry.

I am believing more and more that Paramount is the main driving force on this suit. CBS has been pretty accepting of Fan Films but when one of them (Axanar) starts to use copyright from the recent films that is total unacceptable to Paramount and hence the lawsuit. Of course the 'for profit studio' and crew salaries are a big trigger as well.
I think you may be right. The law firm that filed the complaint primarily works for Paramount, although they've handled CBS matters before as well. And Axanar is touting itself as a "feature film," after all, which treads directly on Paramount in a release year.
I agree. I doubt this has anything to do with the new series in 2017 and probably more to do with characters (Robau) designs (Kelvin) and what not from the Abrams films, which have been expressly and repeatedly identified as completely off limits for non Paramount-sanctioned content.

I don't understand why people think a business dinner tab of 200 dollars is extraordinary.

It's not. But why would a non-commercial fan film need to spend money entertaining actors? It's one thing to pay for craft services during filming, but this suggests Peters is using Axanar as a personal expense account.

Oh it absolutely suggests that. Peters probably even viewed it that way, as a means to woo Tony Todd and/or explain the character of Ramirez to him to try to convince him to join the project or elaborate on what Todd would be doing through the rest of the film. Devil's advocate: You think Harrison Ford signed on to The Force Awakens just because Disney wanted him to? Or because JJ Abrams wrote a script featuring Han Solo? Of course not -- Ford had to be wooed and convinced.

Let's not forget also that Peters is a Star Trek fan too, so it probably felt like a great "bragging rights" kind of thing too on top of everything else ("I had dinner with Kurn!" etc.)

Sometimes producers do take these kinds of meetings -- lunches, drinks, or dinners, etc. --- to make their case for why an actor or other production person should join a project. Happens all the time.

The big difference being of course that JJ Abrams had the Walt Disney Company and Lucasfilm, Ltd. and his own Bad Robot behind him.

Alec Peters had a Kickstarter fundraiser cashflow and a partially completed set on a warehouse in Valencia and a bad history of money management.
Did he use the donor's money for the dinner? I understand meeting with Todd to get him to do the movie could be a production expense, but I question if it's really appropriate use of the fans money, unless it was specifically stated before hand that some of it would go to things like that. I'm not sure if I'd be real happy if I gave someone money to make a movie and found out they used to take someone out to dinner. If you make sure it's understood that the money might be used for things not directly part of the production like that, cool, but if I give money to make a movie, I'm only going to want it to go to the movie itself.
 
Two things I watched recently are now reminding me of this situation.

1.) The Simpsons - I'm watching the episode with the Good Guy Awards right now. Krusty comes out and sings the first line of a song then stops midlyric. He screams "Stop the music. We sing one more word we have to pay for the whole song!"

Funny, I haven't been able to get the darn "Monorail" song out of my head since this whole thing began.

"I've sold Star Trek fan films to Brockaway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum, it put them on the map!"

I see that and raise you:

"What production company is this Star Trek fanfilm from?"

"It no longer exists"
 
Did he use the donor's money for the dinner? I understand meeting with Todd to get him to do the movie could be a production expense, but I question if it's really appropriate use of the fans money, unless it was specifically stated before hand that some of it would go to things like that. I'm not sure if I'd be real happy if I gave someone money to make a movie and found out they used to take someone out to dinner. If you make sure it's understood that the money might be used for things not directly part of the production like that, cool, but if I give money to make a movie, I'm only going to want it to go to the movie itself.

Based on this report, Axanar's only source of income is the Kickstarter funds, so that would mean everything spent came from the donors.

Incidentally, I was discussing the Axanar situation with a friend who happens to be a finance executive at a large organization, and her first question to me was, "Have they ever needed real, proper financing? I'm talking about an actual business loan from a financial institution, which requires real financials."

A good question. The report says nothing about such financing but one would assume Peters isn't going to rely entirely on Kickstarter funds to grow Ares Studios.
 
Funny thing - since Youtube has detected copywritten material in that Hitler video, they won't allow me to make money off of it.

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
 
Funny thing - since Youtube has detected copywritten material in that Hitler video, they won't allow me to make money off of it.

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.




That's the last straw, damn it! This far and no further!

#IStandWithSquiggy
 
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