CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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I believe you have the X Prize people offering a prize for someone who comes up with a working Tricorder.
And if I'm not mistaken (it could admittedly be like that US aircraft carrier verses a lighthouse story that periodically does the rounds online) a few years back didn't Paramount warn the US Navy that when the (then) current USS Enterprise decommissioned they were not allowed to name another vessel the USS Enterprise ever again as it would violate their IP? I seem to recall that prompted from the US Navy the equivalent of a Picard face palm or a Simpsons rolled eyes in awkward silence type reaction.
I'm in
Joining that now, thanks for the heads up!
Nick Cook started a great Facebook group also about a year or so ago called "Starbase One" where fan films can be discussed in a calm and civil matter minus the usual trolling, agenda-motivated commenting and bickering that seems to fly here and get censored on fan films main FB pages. There are the occasional wingnuts who post stuff that has nothing to do with fan films, but it's a great resource and an entirely pleasant page to read and belong to. Highly recommend.
Never heard that one, if true then it shows just how deluded CBS / Paramount can be when it comes to the strength of an IP claim
if they ever tried that then I would definitely not be standing with CBS 
Speaking of CBS and IP claims anyone else seen this doing the rounds? Kinda ironic for them to have someone served over miss use of material without permission and at the same time to find out they are being sued over soft kitty!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35194737
That was a story
Never heard that one, if true then it shows just how deluded CBS / Paramount can be when it comes to the strength of an IP claim
Speaking of CBS and IP claims anyone else seen this doing the rounds? Kinda ironic for them to have someone served over miss use of material without permission and at the same time to find out they are being sued over soft kitty!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35194737
I thought it might be, or if it was true it was one lone Paramount exec who greatly exceeded his or her authority.
Never heard that one, if true then it shows just how deluded CBS / Paramount can be when it comes to the strength of an IP claim
Speaking of CBS and IP claims anyone else seen this doing the rounds? Kinda ironic for them to have someone served over miss use of material without permission and at the same time to find out they are being sued over soft kitty!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35194737
I thought it might be, or if it was true it was one lone Paramount exec who greatly exceeded his or her authority.
The USN would have prior right of usage to the name in the first place
106 pages are a lot of pages 
So if this was brought up already I'm sorry. But the Axanar team are openly proud that they made a studio (Ares Studio) and they will use it to produce sci-fi series and movies there ...
"The Axanar team is happy to announce that we have signed a lease on 16,000sf warehouse in Valencia, CA. The new home of Axanar Productions will be called “Ares Studios” and you are all part of it because of your donations to the Axanar Kickstarter. We intend to turn this warehouse and office space into a fully functional sound stage. This will allow us to not only make “Axanar” but other Star Trek projects after Axanar and other Sci-Fi projects. (Robert Burnett and I have already acquired the rights to a fantastic book series by David Gerrold.)"
So basically they are saying thank you backers, now that you paid us a studio we will do Axanar but we will make profit after other series all thanks to you fans that paid our studio ... If they would never used Star Trek and they would have tried to do a sci-fi project without the Star Trek names or heritage they would have not made 100.000 USD. The best example that comes into my mind is the 5th Passanger project with some very heavy sci-fi names and Star Trek connections are present, but without the Star Trek brand and they managed to do "only" 81.000 USD ...
So if this was brought up already I'm sorry. But the Axanar team are openly proud that they made a studio (Ares Studio) and they will use it to produce sci-fi series and movies there ..."The Axanar team is happy to announce that we have signed a lease on 16,000sf warehouse in Valencia, CA. The new home of Axanar Productions will be called “Ares Studios” and you are all part of it because of your donations to the Axanar Kickstarter. We intend to turn this warehouse and office space into a fully functional sound stage. This will allow us to not only make “Axanar” but other Star Trek projects after Axanar and other Sci-Fi projects. (Robert Burnett and I have already acquired the rights to a fantastic book series by David Gerrold.)"
So basically they are saying thank you backers, now that you paid us a studio we will do Axanar but we will make profit after other series all thanks to you fans that paid our studio ... If they would never used Star Trek and they would have tried to do a sci-fi project without the Star Trek names or heritage they would have not made 100.000 USD. The best example that comes into my mind is the 5th Passanger project with some very heavy sci-fi names and Star Trek connections are present, but without the Star Trek brand and they managed to do "only" 81.000 USD ...
That's not a good development all things considered... it's as childish as the IStandWithAxanar hashtag. Draws more attention than needed.
Now I'd wish for Kool-Aid - for everyone.
Alec has revealed his defence
"Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos"
"Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos"
I spiked the punch.
106 pages are a lot of pages
"The Axanar team is happy to announce that we have signed a lease on 16,000sf warehouse in Valencia, CA. The new home of Axanar Productions will be called “Ares Studios” and you are all part of it because of your donations to the Axanar Kickstarter. We intend to turn this warehouse and office space into a fully functional sound stage. This will allow us to not only make “Axanar” but other Star Trek projects after Axanar and other Sci-Fi projects. (Robert Burnett and I have already acquired the rights to a fantastic book series by David Gerrold.)"
So basically they are saying thank you backers, now that you paid us a studio we will do Axanar but we will make profit after other series all thanks to you fans that paid our studio ... If they would never used Star Trek and they would have tried to do a sci-fi project without the Star Trek names or heritage they would have not made 100.000 USD. The best example that comes into my mind is the 5th Passanger project with some very heavy sci-fi names and Star Trek connections are present, but without the Star Trek brand and they managed to do "only" 81.000 USD ...
I never gave them a dime, but liked what they did with the 20 min prelude video. But this was exactly when I bailed. It was a "bait and switch" on the donors. And worse still, using donated funds to create a new business that would profit THEM. Be damned CBS/Paramount's beef, the donors should have been up in arms at that point.
I think the I Stand With CBS facebook group was just to show ANYONE can start a facebook group, it's not rocket science.
Anyone can join them, anyone can be banned from them.
Axanar isn't "special snowflake" just because they have a facebook group.
None of us are parties to the lawsuit. The attention we draw is irrelevant.
But... they have (at least) three!
Strong feeling of dejá vu here. Anybody heard anything back from Al Vinci yet? How'd the meeting with CBS go? Moving the production to Canada?
Well there's a difference between referencing the existence of another property and trying to directly tie into it. A TV show set in the present day, as Stargate was, would plausibly have characters discuss subjects like Star Wars, the Matrix, and the Vagina Monologues (all three were mentioned on SG-1's long run.) This is why you can find pop culture references in pretty much any TV show set in the present day (and sitcoms like Big Bang Theory and Community that are practically dependent on them.)
The latter is the kind of place where one could run into trouble, if it was deemed that Stargate's use of an idea wasn't just similar to Star Trek's, but infringed on its copyright - one can note that their sci-fi tech was named and designed differently than Star Trek's. And Asgard teleportation, while the same in plot terms, at least looks different (and I don't think Star Trek has trademarked the idea of teleportation, which obviously predates the property and was used in many Golden Age sci-fi stories.)
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