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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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[Link to Indiegogo campaign removed.] GLS

What happens if they continue to ignore CBS? Going forward with fundraising, perks and coffee? The Indiegogo page is still up.

Has Paramount/CBS issued a Cease and desist order, or just served him with the suit?

We don't know...
We can assume that early on one was handed to the team...
That's why they dropped "Star Trek" from the title...
That didn't keep them out of hot water as they kept everything else just like it was...
That in itself might be why there's a lawsuit now...
It's like, okay, can't use the name, but still use everything else, and that's where they possibly crossed the line...
That's my guess anyway, not sure if it's the truth.
 
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{Link to Indiegogo campaign removed.] GLS

What happens if they continue to ignore CBS? Going forward with fundraising, perks and coffee? The Indiegogo page is still up.

Has Paramount/CBS issued a Cease and desist order, or just served him with the suit?

They may have issued a C&D previously and ignored it, we don't know for sure. CBS could try to expedite the injunction and get a judge to issue it soon. It could be a while before the actual trial begins so they may seek to freeze axanars actions until then.
 
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/axanar#/

What happens if they continue to ignore CBS? Going forward with fundraising, perks and coffee? The Indiegogo page is still up.

Has Paramount/CBS issued a Cease and desist order, or just served him with the suit?

We don't know...
We can assume that early on one was handed to the team...
That's why they dropped "Star Trek" from the title...
That didn't keep them out of hot water as they kept everything else just like it was...
That in itself might be why there's a lawsuit now...
It's like, okay, can't use the name, but still use everything else, and that's where they possibly crossed the line...
That's my guess anyway, not sure if it's the truth.

Did not Alec put out a statement some time ago saying that this was the reason why they dropped "Star Trek"...? I seem to recall that the CBS people got angry about this, rightly so to be honest, and most likely kept an eye on them
 
Speaking of spooky prescience...(though I guess many people will say: saw that coming :))

 
[Link to Indiegogo campaign removed.] GLS

What happens if they continue to ignore CBS? Going forward with fundraising, perks and coffee? The Indiegogo page is still up.

Has Paramount/CBS issued a Cease and desist order, or just served him with the suit?

We don't know...
We can assume that early on one was handed to the team...
That's why they dropped "Star Trek" from the title...
That didn't keep them out of hot water as they kept everything else just like it was...
That in itself might be why there's a lawsuit now...
It's like, okay, can't use the name, but still use everything else, and that's where they possibly crossed the line...
That's my guess anyway, not sure if it's the truth.

Other fan films use "Star Trek" in their title... and as is the Case with Star Trek Continues, they were instructed by CBS to change their Logo because it too closely matched the Star Trek Trade Mark...

I assume that' might be why Phase 2 changed their logo to the words appearing on top of each other... We have a producer here who might have insight into that.
 
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Peters made a big fuss about how they dropped the "Star Trek" from the title, yes. But it was back in full force when they launched the last fundraiser to help raise visibility of the production. There were even paid ads on Google and Facebook for it. Afterward, they quietly removed the name "Star Trek" again as if it had never been there.
 
Has Paramount/CBS issued a Cease and desist order, or just served him with the suit?

We don't know...
We can assume that early on one was handed to the team...
That's why they dropped "Star Trek" from the title...
That didn't keep them out of hot water as they kept everything else just like it was...
That in itself might be why there's a lawsuit now...
It's like, okay, can't use the name, but still use everything else, and that's where they possibly crossed the line...
That's my guess anyway, not sure if it's the truth.

Did not Alec put out a statement some time ago saying that this was the reason why they dropped "Star Trek"...? I seem to recall that the CBS people got angry about this, rightly so to be honest, and most likely kept an eye on them

I thought that was the case, I asked it on social media, and Alec blasted my ignorance.... said they didn't receive anything from CBS, and did it for their own branding.... I went back and couldn't find anything related to it, but It does seem Axanar has a habit of retconning stuff in real life...
 
The trial transcripts will be interesting because if C&Ds were issued, they will be mentioned there right?
 
I wonder if CBS chose to do this this week, the slowest news week of the year and after TFA's hype dies down so they could send a message to everyone else.

I thought normally people wanted potentially negative stuff to come out this week, because they are more concerned with their holidays than with Hollywood....

Could be both. It's a big act, so everyone who cares about fan films and Axanar will be put in their place, but it limits blowback from people who read an article on iO9 or saw Prelude on YouTube and thought it was cool but didn't go any further. The latter, larger group would never hear about this, unless they later google it up to see whatever happened with that Wayne and Garth on-line Star Trek History Channel thing.

Ten years from now, Axanar'll start accumulating rumors and legend. Twenty-five years, and everyone will know about the fan-made Trek prequel that CBS pulled on the eve of its release, and there will be rumors that there's a secret hard drive somewhere with a finished cut, still waiting to be released when the heat comes off...
 
The trial transcripts will be interesting because if C&Ds were issued, they will be mentioned there right?
I'd imagine so, since CBS would want to prove without a doubt they gave Axanar every opportunity to comply with their demands.
 
The trial transcripts will be interesting because if C&Ds were issued, they will be mentioned there right?

I would assume so... and knowing if and WHEN CBS might have issued those would be interesting..

I would think Alec is smarter than that, but learning about what he did with Propworx and MGM.. well, told me otherwise...
 
I'm wondering why CBS is asking for a jury trial?

As Maurice speculated upthread, to set legal precedent when it comes to fan productions and their crowdfunding.

I saw that but forgot about it, thanks. This is a long thread.

Still, I wonder if CBS thinks a jury will award more damages than if they just ask for summary judgment. I have no knowledge of the law or courtroom procedure, so maybe someone who does will chime in.

These are a couple of confused terms - I'll do my best to explain.

Summary judgment would be a motion and it would mean Peters, et al have no defense at all. E. g. if there was a suit for a tort requiring 3 elements, and all 3 were conclusively met and conceded by the defense, you'd move for summary judgment. Law firms will do that for things like a rear-ender case. There aren't a lot of defenses to those, although there are some, e. g. if the lead car stopped short.

Demanding a jury trial doesn't necessarily mean one would even happen. It can be a lot of posturing more than anything else. Why would CBS/Paramount want a jury trial in the first place? Hard to say. Keep in mind, it's been a while since I practiced law, and it was New York anyway, but generally we were going for juror sympathy and/or we weren't thrilled with the assigned judge. I worked for an insurance company and there tend to not be a lot of people who are automatically sympathetic to such corporations.

But in the Hollywood area, CBS/Paramount are large employers. The jury pool would presumably (assuming this case got anywhere near that, and the odds don't favor that) be loaded with people attached to the industry. They can't all be stricken from the pool for cause, and the number of peremptory challenges is always limited. Hence some people in the industry would potentially end up judging the matter.

They are probably not going to take too kindly to a guy who CBS/Paramount will likely paint as a grabber of the little guy's money, a maker of false promises, and a person with little to no regard for an artist's product.

I'd say requesting a jury trial could be a smart move by CBS/Paramount. Plus it also does so before Peters, et al could do so and claim some dubious form of the moral high ground. This dubious moral high ground is also being claimed by Peters, etc. claiming the fans are indirectly being sued.

We aren't. My home, livelihood, property, and reputation are not at stake here. Peters's are.
 
The trial transcripts will be interesting because if C&Ds were issued, they will be mentioned there right?

Yes it would because CBS's lawyers would state they issued a C&D to get Axanar to stop and they ignored that order. If this was indeed the case. The suit we all read may not have listed that, but it still could have happened. We will see
 
gonna print out an Axanar badge and stick it on the coffee cup. Axanar coffee. ah wait I might get a C&D or worse!
 
gonna print out an Axanar badge and stick it on the coffee cup. Axanar coffee. ah wait I might get a C&D or worse!

You should call Alec Peters and suggest he do a Maquis blend.

"For the rebellious Axanar donor."
 
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