CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[bonesmccoy2014]

What misbehaviour? They, and Treknews, Trekmovie, Newsweek and myself et all are all reporting on this.

I've already clearly stated this concern. Again, the issue was that Hinman's reporting on 1701news and Pedraza's speculation in his interview with TrekZone raises the issue of "cease and desist" communication to ALL Star Trek fan film projects. This is clearly speculation and clearly communicated by Hinman and Pedraza in multiple postings on multiple sites over the past week. Yet, we also have communication from some of those fan films which clearly state that no such communication has or is occurring.

Therefore, my question to you regarding the timing of your interview with Pedraza. Did you approach Pedraza first or did Pedraza call you about the topic? And, when did you record these interviews and why did you release this speculation on the day or week that you released?

In releasing your Youtube video, TrekZone may have adversely impacted fundraising and social media campaigns for other projects. Do you understand this?

 

[MikeH92467]

So what is this "Misbehavior" you refer to? If you're going to make veiled threats why not say something a little more clear like "nice blog you got here, it'd be a real shame if something happened to it. Now if you just stop asking embarrassing questions and talking about Axanar in general we'll make sure nothing bad happens." You know something like that. I really despise the passive/aggressive act.

ETA: so raising issues such as whether AP might ignored a C&D is "misbehavior". Good God...is AP totally above question or reproach in your mind?

To everyone else, I would ask which is more likely to happen: that this guy goes whining to the Axanar crowd on FB that everyone was really mean to him on TBBS or does he go there and start crowing about how he really showed those haters a thing or two?

 

[steam235]

In releasing your Youtube video, TrekZone may have adversely impacted fundraising and social media campaigns for other projects. Do you understand this?

It's not their job to cushion things for other fan films.

Why do you think an interview like this had any effect on Star Trek Continues?

 

[Indysolo]

I'm not clicking, "Show Ignored Content". I'm not clicking "Show Ignored Comment"!!

Neil

 

[Jedi_Master]

Ok, we gotta do something about this; his name and title is never gonna fit on a business card:

Lord Foot-in-Mouth, Grand Infringor, Misuser of Funds, Archduke of Defamation, High Axacutioner of Axanar.

And the Titles just keep on comin'!

Oh ye of little faith, for 1.3 million we can make independent, professional cards that hold all his titles.

 

[bonesmccoy2014]

People are allowed to focus and write abut what they'd like to focus and write about. Attention goes where attention goes. In this case, there's a non-trivial amount of interest in the copyright infringement case caused by Alec Peter's actions. That's where this started, and the ending will greatly depend on his actions as well.

If people reporting on this case really have public relations experience, they know all too well that the timing of the narrative impacts much.

Pedraza himself states that he ran PR in Washington for a politician. Therefore, he knows that timing means something.

If you agree, then you also would need to explain the timing of the news releases by Hinman, Pedraza, et al.

This has been my question for the past few days.

But, I find the lack of an answer odd.

So far, the only answer is to charge me with being a conspiracy theorist.

To claim that there is no coordination in the appearance of Hinman's stories at 1701news, Hinman's comments in multiple social media sources, Pedraza's comments in the Trek Zone interview, Pedraza's prior work at new Voyages, and the linkages on prior projects between you and Pedraza... Well, that just stretches credulity. Sorry, but I'm not that naive and not that stupid.

 

[mirrormatt86]

This is clearly speculation and clearly communicated by Hinman and Pedraza in multiple postings on multiple sites over the past week.

Why are you asking me about this?

Did you approach Pedraza first or did Pedraza call you about the topic?

I contacted @carlosp .

And, when did you record these interviews and why did you release this speculation on the day or week that you released?

We recorded Wednesday April 13 Australian time. And for the third time read these tweets:
https://twitter.com/TREKZONEorg/status/720095634016059393
https://twitter.com/TREKZONEorg/status/724380154810667008
https://twitter.com/TREKZONEorg/status/724579193393131520
https://twitter.com/TREKZONEorg/status/724901928648495105

TrekZone may have adversely impacted fundraising and social media campaigns for other projects. Do you understand this?

. Thank you so much for believing that my reach and potential to affect world wide change is THAT high. Do you honestly believe that a website that's only beginning to be discovered by people around the world has the ability to stop a production that is as long in the tooth as Continues??


How about you read my post before you continue to reply. And how about you stop asking @Michael Hinman and @carlosp questions while talking to me.

 

[mirrormatt86]

So far, the only answer is to charge me with being a conspiracy theorist.

We have answered you. You keep ignoring that and asking the question again.

 

[mirrormatt86]

Sorry, but I'm not that naive and not that stupid.

you are so convinced that there is some big conspiracy here that you can't believe what is staring you in the face.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Gosh. News comes to light, multiple interested outlets report news shortly thereafter. It all adds up.

 

[Campe]

You know what adversely affected other crowd funding campaigns?

Axanar.

 

[steam235]

Hey Trekzone, the local forum etiquette on this board is not to have multiple sequential posts from the same poster. Also I dig your blog!

 

[bonesmccoy2014]

Why are you asking me about this?
I contacted @carlosp .

That's great. Thanks for answering my question on when it was produced. It would be nice if you might consider putting that in text on screen in your video casts. It's hard to know when something is recorded when the vlogger does not clarify that. And, the Twitter references really do not shed much light on the answer to why the video was done when it was done.

Regarding your impact, the Fan Film community is relatively small. The number of people donating to these projects is shrinking and yes, your video piece can impact the process.

Thanks for your response.

 

[Campe]

Ah, ignored. I feel like a great weight has been lifted!

 

[CaptGrumpy]

The lawsuit is neither news or unexpected. CBS had to defend its copyright and trademark. This is a run of the mill copyright complaint. Nothing to see here... move on.

This is a copyright case, not a trademark case. CBS/P isn't required to sue anybody, and can go after any legitimate offender. Also, if you don't think there's anything to see, then you can look at something else. There are many here who find this case interesting

 

[Sgt_G]

The question is not regarding AP's behavior.

Just how flipping disingenuous can you get??? You asked where did the story came from, and I answered that it started with AP claiming TK told him that. The answer to your question was "Alec Peters". Just because you wanted to hear "The bloggers started that rumor" doesn't mean it's the right answer.

 

[mirrormatt86]

Hey Trekzone, the local forum etiquette on this board is not to have multiple sequential posts from the same poster. Also I dig your blog!

Sorry mate, I'll edit posts and add quotes in the future.

Thanks for answering my question on when it was produced.

You're welcome.

It would be nice if you might consider putting that in text on screen in your video casts. It's hard to know when something is recorded when the vlogger does not clarify that.

No. This is an exception to the rule, normally podcasts are released a lot closer to record.

And, the Twitter references really do not shed much light on the answer to why the video was done when it was done.

Yes it does. If you read the date stamp and follow the information in the tweets you can quite clearly see why the release was delayed.

The number of people donating to these projects is shrinking

One word...
Axanar.

 

[bonesmccoy2014]

Seconded. I watched the interview and saw nothing untoward in terms of content.

Clarified in a different comment, but Hinman and Pedraza were posting and spreading disinfor

It's not their job to cushion things for other fan films.

Why do you think an interview like this had any effect on Star Trek Continues?

The adverse coverage by Pedraza and Hinman may have adversely impacted the STC fund raising. Yes. In fact, Hinman himself wrote critical pieces about STC's fund raising effort and its outcome. The timing of the appearance of those columns coincided with the Pedraza interview speculating on phone calls to "other fan films".

 

[Firebird]

Again, I did not say that these people "are not allowed to report on this issue". I was intentionally not saying that. My point is that their reporting was timed oddly.

Ah, yes, except for the fact that you actually did by encouraging them to stop reporting on this, as if you believed they weren't allowed to:

I urge Mr. Hinman and Mr. Pedraza to please stop interfering and stop reporting on this matter. You are doing a disservice to yourself and all parties involved.

Why would you tell them to stop reporting, and continue to imply, coerce and suggest your way into forcing them to bend to your will after you've had no support on any assertion you've made unless you believe they aren't allowed to report on it?

Seems rather strange, don'tcha think?

 

[bonesmccoy2014]

Just how flipping disingenuous can you get??? You asked where did the story came from, and I answered that it started with AP claiming TK told him that. The answer to your question was "Alec Peters". Just because you wanted to hear "The bloggers started that rumor" doesn't mean it's the right answer.

Let me restate my comment. I understand that you are focused on AP's behavior.
My interest lies not with AP's behavior. I can already see that he's made many mistakes and is facing disciplinary processes as a result.

My question was on why the timing of the interview and the release of the video. The vlogger at Trek Zone has now clarified with an answer. I appreciate his answer.