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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Otherwise only independently wealthy people could make a decent product.

The idea should never be to make a decent product. The idea should be for some fans to get together, have fun and be creative. There is no need for fan films to try and compete with CBS. Honestly, the only thing money has done is allowed for neat sets and flashy CGI, the acting is still poor and writing mediocre on the vast majority of these productions.
 
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I think we're already seeing the end of that. Look at how much Star Trek Continues has raised with their current fundraiser.

Neil

Peters may have won the battle on this front but he's still going to lose the war. Given his very public animosity for Star Trek Continues and Vic, I'm sure he's quite enjoying this and seeing it as his own personal victory.

Except it's just going to be his own personal Waterloo. I hope the dipshit enjoys Elba. (see what I did there?)

Re: Lukas Kendall's article - great write-up and analysis. Welcome to the BBS, Lukas!
 
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How Axanar Needs to End

By Lukas Kendall

I feel compelled to explain the truth behind the Axanar lawsuit. People get swept up in the colorful legal motions being filed by both sides. Those are just theater. What is important is behind the scenes. This conflict, far from possibly facilitating the official licensing of Star Trek fan films, is holding them up—badly, wasting everybody’s time and hurting regular people.

Ideally, not-for-profit Star Trek fan films would be simple for fans to register and legally distribute. It’s not far-fetched: Lucasfilm has official rules for Star Wars fan films and even offers awards and makes available downloads of sounds and music (http://www.starwars.com/star-wars-fan-film-awards). However, Star Wars is an easier property to administer than Star Trek: it has a shorter history, a sole owner (although acquired by Disney, Lucasfilm is administratively intact) and a younger audience that seems interested in making a different kind of fan film—shorts (limited by the rules to five minutes) rather than the hour-long episodes of Star Trek.

For Star Trek fan films to be legitimized, it will take an enormous amount of work and risk for sympathetic CBS executives. (CBS owns the Star Trek intellectual property and television rights, while Paramount Pictures owns the movie rights. For purposes of this article, I will refer solely to CBS as they administer Star Trek licensing.) First and most importantly, CBS cannot do anything that even remotely sets a legal precedent of compromising its rights to Star Trek. That’s how people get fired. Executives would have to convince their colleagues and lawyers at multiple levels to help devise this…why? There’s no money in it—it’s good P.R. and that’s about it. It actually loses money, because of the time they have to spend supervising it. There is every reason for bosses and lawyers to say no and almost no reason to say yes. This is why, prior to CBS suing Axanar, CBS officially pretended like the fan films did not exist—it was legally and bureaucratically the only way to let them exist.

Secondly, you have to figure out how to make sure nobody profits off of the fan films. But “non-profit” is not the standard that should apply. The real standard should be “non-commercial.”

Fan films are produced by amateurs on a volunteer basis. (Sounds reasonable, right?) But films are expensive—there’s no way around that. Even if people contribute volunteer labor, there are production needs that cost hard money: from locations and equipment to food. “Mission creep” inspires the producers to seek better talent behind and in front of the cameras, and raise money to pay for it. They go from family and friends pitching in, to soliciting private donations, to using crowdsourcing (on Kickstarter, Indiegogo, et al.) to raise six and even seven figures. (That’s not hypothetical, that’s what happened.)

So let’s say CBS establishes official fan film rules. I am truly at a loss as to how they would police them. It’s like they’d have to become the NCAA. Do you limit donations to…what? An arbitrary number? Do you ban the use of crowdsourcing platforms (tilting the playing field towards the independently wealthy)? Audit people to ensure compliance? Who pays for that?

There has to be some financial definition of non-commercial but I’m not sure you can put a number on it. No matter the rules you devise to keep the fan films amateur and non-commercial, some (not all) will find loopholes. Make a limit of $50,000 per fan film and you will see them produced in 15-minute segments. Make it $50,000 per hour and you will push money underground. Allow appeals for exceptions and you will be deluged in appeals. Fans are motivated enough to make their own Star Trek episodes—of course they will be determined and clever enough to find ways to raise more money and make better films.

Which brings us to Axanar.

If there was any way to abuse CBS’ goodwill in looking the other way on the fan films, Axanar did—and then some. This is something they and their followers will dispute…but please. They raised over a million dollars in multiple efforts. They used their donor funds to lease a warehouse in Castaic (an hour north of Los Angeles) and turn it into a soundstage which they bragged would be a base for ongoing commercial ventures. They attempted to cast their film through the Hollywood agencies with professional talent. They shamelessly ran a store for bootleg Star Trek merchandise under the guise of “perks” for “donors” (like Axanar coffee—not making that up). They fostered an atmosphere—or at least did not discourage it—that Axanar was true Star Trek and the J.J. Abrams films were dogshit. They got in fights with other fan films. They built a cult of personality around the principal (what could go wrong?). Lately, they’ve taken to censoring negative comments on their official website and forums like a bad parody of a communist state.

Personality matters, and the personality of the Axanar principal has rubbed people the wrong way. By his own admission, he paid himself a salary because Axanar is his full-time job. Sorry, but this is the opposite of what making a fan film is supposed to be. Axanar is not a hobby, it is a profession, allowing him to enjoy the lifestyle of a film producer and specifically a Star Trek film producer: adulation, creative fulfillment, travel, glamour and attention, paid for by Star Trek fans. Sure, it’s hard work, and relatively low-pay, but it’s exactly what he wants to do—be the captain of his own Star Trek ship. (He even cast himself as Captain Garth until his team threatened to revolt over the obvious problem that he can’t act.)

This is why Axanar has developed a legion of “hate watchers” in addition to supporters—because the principal has made himself into a reality-show character. Some people love him, most love to hate him.

So let’s discuss the Axanar lawsuit. Having obtained pro bono counsel, Axanar is vigorously fighting back. There are three things they can achieve by doing this: 1) They can drag this out for months, if not years. 2) They can embarrass and annoy CBS through bad press. 3) They can, possibly, use the legal proceedings to turn up unflattering facts about CBS and Paramount’s finances, business deals and ownership of Star Trek.

If you think any of that (particularly no. 3) gives Axanar leverage, think again. All they are doing is making CBS dig in their heels. Legally, politically and in every possible way, CBS will never agree to a settlement that allows Axanar to be made. It would be a massive humiliation and an admission that they can be abused and bullied by people they perceive to be thieves. There is no way a corporation of that size (two corporations, actually) gets everybody to sign off on such a capitulation. Better to lose money than lose face.

It’s also impossible for Axanar to win their lawsuit. I won’t bother to dissect the court motions. If Axanar were to somehow prevail, it would basically means there’s no such thing as copyright. I would be shocked if they got as far as depositions, let alone trial. Just watch the principal’s web appearances (or don’t): what lawyer would allow him to be deposed?

So why is Axanar fighting the lawsuit? To some degree, because the principal is delusional—and he found a law firm that loves the publicity and is egging him on. But mostly, it’s because he has no idea how to get out of this mess. He just wants to postpone the disgrace of admitting he has failed his donors.

This is not a victimless crime. That $1.3 million Axanar raised came from real people, who love Star Trek and gave Axanar their precious cash to make more of it. And the principal behaved in such a reckless, egregious and self-aggrandizing way that he was bound to be sued. It’s shameful.

If Axanar wanted, they could end this lawsuit by the time you finished reading this article. All the principal has to do is call the CBS executives (he knows them) and offer this: 1) We will wind down operations completely and 2) refund as much donor money as we can on a pro-rata basis.

The problem is that CBS would say yes but add a third item: that the principal accepts a lifetime ban from any commercial involvement with Star Trek. We’re talking Pete Rose-banned-from baseball. He does not go on to make a documentary about Axanar, write the memoirs of Captain Garth, sell props and sign autographs at conventions. They want him to vanish off the face of the earth. That’s how much they loathe and distrust him.

Number three would probably prevent the principal from agreeing to this proposal. Because he likes being a big shot, and more importantly, he knows he will need the money that comes from being a minor Star Trek celebrity. And he’ll have nothing better to do.

The best way to help donors get over their disappointment that they will never see Axanar is to give them the script. I’ve read it (the final draft) and sorry…it’s not very good. It’s basically a fan film, servicing fan ideas, repetitive and shallow on any real level. But that’s beside the point. Axanar successfully made their donors think they were getting the best thing since sliced bread. When they eventually read the script, some people will still believe that. But most will go, “Oh…Okay.”

A thorny issue remains of what to do with the warehouse which Axanar spent donor money to lease and renovate into a shooting stage. In the short term, that stage has a significant “burn rate” that will exhaust the donor money and get Axanar evicted—unless Axanar leases it for commercial use. Both options are problematic. The stage cannot be liquidated (dismantled) in order to repay the donors, but clearly somebody—be it the landlord or the next tenant—is going to benefit from the donors’ largesse. CBS obviously would not want the Axanar principal, or John Does, to continue to operate the stage, because they cannot be allowed to benefit from their bad actions. Ideally there would be some kind of trustee who operates it commercially to make back the donors’ money and get them whole—perhaps a public auction of those rights…yuck, what a can of worms.

You may be saying, won’t CBS want damages? $150,000 per infringement or whatever it says in the lawsuit? Of course not. Does CBS want an article in The Hollywood Reporter that they are collecting donor money from a fan film in a legal settlement? No! Talk about the most odious press imaginable. I’ll bet Axanar could even get out of having to pay CBS’ court costs.

So this is the best-case scenario: Axanar shuts down, permanently, refunds as much money to donors as possible, and tries to help CBS with the P.R. mess. Eventually, CBS finds a way to authorize the fan films…minus Axanar, which will never be made.

I would bet anything that CBS would accept this—but CBS cannot propose it legally. Axanar needs to propose it and have CBS accept. Which they can do. It only takes a phone call.

Will Axanar do that? No. Not right now. It’s too painful for the principal. But eventually he’ll have to. And for the good of everybody, it needs to be sooner rather than later.

Why am I writing this?

Because as much as I love hate-watching Axanar, I empathize with all the people being hurt by this fiasco: Primarily, the Star Trek fans who gave their money. But there are also the makers of the other fan films (now in jeopardy), the CBS executives dealing with this shit (better people than anybody realizes), and even the John Does at Axanar who just wanted to make a Star Trek film.

This needs to end. And for it to end, public pressure needs to mount on Axanar to throw in the towel, refund the donor money and accept humiliation and punishment. If CBS can get out from under this madness, I have no doubt they will make a good-faith effort to license the fan films. They just can’t do that in a climate of people raising hundreds of thousands of dollars in Kickstarter money and using Star Trek as a license to print money. That’s their job.

I’m joking, but not really. Ordinarily I’d stand for the little guy against the giant corporations—but this is different. The Axanar principal is stealing something that doesn’t belong to him to make money and have fun, and that’s offensive to all of us who live our lives not stealing things, even though we may want to. It’s that simple.

The Axanar principal needs to see that his public support from Star Trek fans is crumbling. He has to get to the point where he sees there is no way out, because only then will he fall on his sword and martyr himself to help all the future Star Trek fan films (if not his).

Forward this essay to all Star Trek fans.

Now you know…and knowing is half the battle!

So, we're now over 700 pages and hundreds of thousands of words into this, and FINALLY, someone finds a way to say everything neatly and concisely in only a couple thousand words or so. Great work! Well done! Good read!
 
But you're right. C/P will want the entire operation shut down and a Pete Rose-style ending. Possibly also their props back (after all, they are an asset owned by AP and could be a part of a settlement. This would also rather neatly keep them from being used in some potential future museum or traveling exhibit).

Alec's history of collecting a large amount of very valuable props could be of interest to C/P should there be significant damages awarded. I'm guessing they comprise the bulk of his net worth at this point, and may well be worth far more than the studio assets.
 
Incidentally, I think we've already seen with the announcement of the new show a lessening in the demand for the fan films.
Lukas
We have? I didn't realize that.

I mean, I still really enjoy the selection of fan films I prefer to watch and all, still absolutely wanting More of them. And I'm really thrilled that there's a new series coming! While indeed remaining an avid lover and repeat watcher of lots of my favorites among the 700+ episodes & movies through Enterprise series as well as completely enjoying and repeat watchings of the first two movies since 2009, wanting More of them too. So am happily excited and looking forward to July when Beyond is released. But I haven't yet noticed dialogue to read or listen to where people are expressing a lessening interest in fan films. (or a reduction in expressing demand I guess) Though I would suppose the people making our fan films might have clearer insight into waning fan interest, which you could certainly be privy to while I am not. And/or have other data on this that I am also unaware of.
 
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If Axanar wanted, they could end this lawsuit by the time you finished reading this article. All the principal has to do is call the CBS executives (he knows them) and offer this: 1) We will wind down operations completely and 2) refund as much donor money as we can on a pro-rata basis.
This would be the best option. "The Axanar principal" (as you put it) should man up and take one for Team Axanar. Doing this would be a benefit to all of the Does. They're the ones who should be encouraging him to make the call and end this. Their reputations might suffer a little after being involved with this debacle, but it's better than being sued by CBS and Paramount.

Neil
 
This would be the best option. "The Axanar principal" (as you put it) should man up and take one for Team Axanar. Doing this would be a benefit to all of the Does. They're the ones who should be encouraging him to make the call and end this. Their reputations might suffer a little after being involved with this debacle, but it's better than being sued by CBS and Paramount.

Now everyone who expects this to happen, raise your hands. :lol:
 
We have all kind of forgotten about Kickstarter and Indiegogo in all of this... and the fees they took in... which is certainly profit for them, in CBS/Paramount's IP. I remember there were rumors Indiegogo lured Axanar to use their service... I wonder if a part of the settlement (because, there's going to be one), any information regarding that will be given over to CBS/Paramount.

Bringing in 1 million bucks, Kickstarter and Indiegogo get a good chunk of that. And they are one of the reasons why it's so easy to crowdfund.
 
I think when all is said and done with Axanar, that may change.

The declaration that it's "clear" that CBS doesn't object to fundraising is arrant nonsense - until three months ago any observer could have asserted that CBS "clearly" didn't object to anything Axanar was doing.

Other shoes may yet drop, once the studios have established what they mean to establish with this case.

I agree with Indy that the new series is probably depressing fundraising as well. The market rules.
 
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I think we're already seeing the end of that. Look at how much Star Trek Continues has raised with their current fundraiser.

Neil
Since the first of January when discovering the suit which was quickly followed by finding out wth was going on, all but one of the small group I know of donors to the production being sued entirely ceased donating.

Which was unexpectedly followed by myself and one of us who also donate to other fan films (plus one studio I've been intending to donate to) becoming sort of skiddish; delaying continued (and my case plus the separate 'intending to') donations. Not necessarily deciding to stop, more like sitting still, delaying donating, as we continue to watch this suit.

And ST: Continues is one of them my friend and I donate to.. and have been sitting still on. So I guess we are part of Continues reduced funding you're showing me. And here's the thing, both of us are experiencing cognitive dissonance with our planned funding:
On the one hand we 'both' want more Continues, we both trust Continues.
But on the other hand we 'both' trusted and believed deeply in the production and producer being sued too. And have been very much shaken by what we've learned.

We've had conversations regarding our sort of stuck-ness in our delaying further donating. I mean because of the suit we've become very aware our own donations aren't even enough to impact the Fees paid to the funding host so our donations are not even getting applied to the actual producing of what we send our donations for in the first place.

Now I see Continues is being effected. And this adds to my own concern with why I'm not moving on this. I 'like' Continues. I want More of Continues. Yet this other production's suit has so impacted my actual donating right now (my friend's too) that you're showing me we've now become part of Continues' funding problem. Which adds that extra layer to my own dissonance on alllll of this. For which Continues further suffers. At least theoretically I guess.

I, well the two of us, just can't possibly be the only fan film donors out there who are experiencing this feeling of not knowing how to address this funding thing anymore.
 
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Yes, I am that Lukas Kendall - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0447620, www.filmscoremonthly.com

Thank you for your nice words.

Yes, it's a longshot if not impossible for the fan films to be licensed/sanctioned/legitimized.

IMO - there's no way after the Axanar situation that Paramount or CBS will somehow create some sort of agreement or anything to legally license or legitimize Star Trek fan films. They MAY continue as they have before and 'look the other way' as long as those they haven't gone after stick to what they've been doing for over the past decade - and don't start paying themselves salaries, or foist up illegal/bootleg merchandise in an 'online donor store' that allows you to 'add to your pledge on the fly' - and then two years later claim "Ooops - we can't afford postage"... (which is different then creating a specific crowdfunding tier with specific 'perks'; and then creating and dispersing only those specific number of items to those that pledged immediately after the conclusion of the campaign.)

'Star Trek' is a Billion+ dollar IP for them; they're not going to legally cede control of any aspect of it to ANYONE outside of those they deem worthy to pay for and be granted a license to produce something (be it a film/documentary/book/merchandise.) If you think they'll legally let anyone do something based on some set of official written guidelines - you're mistaken.
 
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I seem to vaguely recall the Axanar Principal explicitly stating that Indiegogo made them a better offer, thus the switch from Kickstarter for the last fundraiser.
But remember - the source for this is Alec Peters - the same guys who said they 'acquired rights from David Gerrold...' which Gerrold (who IS an Axanar supporter per his 'I have no dog in this fight...' blog posts) came out and said, "Nope, not true."

I would take ANYTHING Alec Peters has claimed worth a grain of salt.
 
Well, I can't disagree, although I will say that at that point in time I don't see that there was really anything to gain by making that up. :shrug:
 
...Using Lucasfilm as a model, the kind of thing fan-film supporters are looking to do isn't possible. I can't see any studio licensing "more" than the brief wisp of use that Disney does.

Exactly. That pesky fine print. Imagine actually READING the agreement before holding it up as a way forward.


Yes, it's a longshot if not impossible for the fan films to be licensed/sanctioned/legitimized. If I'm CBS, I would need them to sign an agreement that's draconian in keeping all rights to Star Trek and the newly created derivative work for CBS while absolving the studio for any responsibility for the content or consequences. (What happens if God forbid somebody dies making one?) It's a TON of work for the studio. They would need to assign a CBS rep who is the judge, jury and executioner of the fan productions—okaying budgets, scripts, and final cuts. Possible, but a massive leap of faith and basically an act of charity on the part of CBS. It also raises all kinds of thorny issues having to do with WGA royalties due to writers any characters or concepts used, not using any actor likenesses, not using any actual Star Trek music recordings (due to AFM union issues) and much more.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. Having been in the CBS position in the past re being the prospective licensor, in addition to the complexities of drafting a bullet-proof agreement which protects the company, there's the issue of opportunity cost. When I was at Bandai Namco I was told in no uncertain terms that the time and costs of having the legal department draft contracts (and the accounting department audit to enforce said contracts if need be) had to be offset by any possible benefit such licenses would generate. If the prospective license was unlikely to generate anything but significant income it was deemed a waste of effort because it made more business sense to focus those limited resources (legal team time, etc.) on projects which had the promise of generating the most revenue.

One other practical consideration, and the LucasFilm example goes right to it: their contest is a publicity gimmick, and I bet any costs associated with it come from a marketing budget. Furthermore, by limiting the films to 5 minute short subjects they increase the chances they'll get lots of entries, which is good for said publicity. Conversely, there's no practical upside to allowing long form pieces which are more expensive for the makers to produce, and potentially opens bigger cans of worms.

EDIT: On second thoughts a LucasFilm type agreement/contest could be done for one good reason: as a practical way to get all those worms back into the can; basically saying, "THIS is the only permissible way to do make fanfilms, short, free, etc., and we'll C&D to death anyone who steps outside those boundaries."
 
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