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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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mkstewartesq said:
Yes.
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Why is that so? Is it because said screenwritter had sent the hypothetical script to CBS or Paramount unsolicited? If not, why is it different than someone trying to send a script to the TV shows in TNG's time of production, when a few unsolicited scripts where read? Why could he/she be sued for damages?
 
Cue8472 said:
I wonder if the judge is leaning towards Axanar Production's side, the extension was granted to them but not to P/C, makes me think we got a judge donator here folks. Quick P/C request a motion to recuse that judge.
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I'd say look at NoName's reply to my remark on Page 520. I don't think he's connected.
 
Albinator said:
Imagine if an aspiring screenwriter wrote a Star Trek script and shopped it to CBS and Paramount. Could they turn around and sue him for damages?
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No. Whoever they gave the script to would ask "Did this come from an agent?" to which the writer would likely say "No" so the person would hand it back and say "thanks but we're not interested."
 
The donor store is really where it's going to hurt Axanar because nowhere else is it more apparent that this is all just a shameless cash grab by Alec Peters. The rest is bad too, don't get me wrong, but all CBS/Paramount have to do is show the judge the screenshots of the store. Case closed.
 
Karzak said:
The donor store is really where it's going to hurt Axanar because nowhere else is it more apparent that this is all just a shameless cash grab by Alec Peters. The rest is bad too, don't get me wrong, but all CBS/Paramount have to do is show the judge the screenshots of the store. Case closed.
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I don't understand the logic in still having it open?
 
Michael Hinman said:
I don't know what script that was reviewed on Reddit. And if you have looked back, this script has been locked at least a few times now.
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Locking means nothing in a fanfilm, obviously. :D Even in Hollywood scripts sometimes get unlocked and a "new white" draft materializes.

I heard from someone who read a 2013 draft of the script and described a completely different open. Since the "Daisy" (1964) open described in today's review matches that in the script reviewed on reddit, I think it's safe to assume the title-pageless script in question dates from pre-2013. (This may have been discussed upthread but I am on my mobile and haven't had a chance to read all the posts this morning.)
 
Found picture of Alec as a child

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Albinator said:
I understand that it still infringes (i'm not talking about any profit or whether its protected), but the script is essentially just something someone wrote and is sitting in a drawer. Yes, they had intentions to film it, but it never was (and likely never will be). It only got out there because it was leaked.

Are you saying that I could write fan-fiction and keep it in my desk drawer-- no one could ever see it-- and they could be awarded damages?

Yes, fan-fiction infringes, but it's published at least-- people put it out there. I just am having a hard time imagining a judge awarding 150K damages per infringement on a script that nothing was ever done with.
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The problem with that, however, is that copyright begins at inception. So it can't work just one way. If that new creation is deemed derivative — especially if it was the basis of revenue-generating activities (like crowdfunding), then I believe it is actionable.
 
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