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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Csalem said:
FanFilmFactor has the first part of interview with Alec Peters up:
http://fanfilmfactor.com/2017/02/02...it-and-settlement-interview-part-1/#more-3297
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I posted the following in response (which I doubt will be approved, but you never know):

Armsmansays:
February 2, 2017 at 1:59 pm
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Jonathan Lane wrote:
"Rather than turning into a mass of quivering jelly and accepting a potentially multi-million dollar judgment against him, Alec was able to find a top intellectual property law firm to represent him pro bono (for free), and “David” took on “Goliath” in a case that I’ve analyzed extensively here on Fan Film Factor. "
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Well, lets be honest here. Mr. Alec Peters went from: 'We'll fight this on appeal in the 9th Circuit and all the way to the Supreme Court...(Because AXANAR needs to be made as a full feature for my Donors.)"

to:

"Hey, I got a settlement where I don't need to publicly share my financials submitted in the Discovery phase in a public trial; and all it took was agreeing to make AXANAR as two 15 minute segments and following the majority of the Fan Film Guidelines I've called 'destructive' since they were released (oh, I do get to re-use the Star Trek actors I used before if they'll come back for free); and which I now retroactively embrace - because hey - (and it bears repeating) - I don't need to unbiasely and publicly show exactly what I spent the 1.4 million I received without producing more than a two minute Vulcan scene...WIN!"

No Alec Peters didn't turn into a mass of quivering jelly - he just caved big time because he got what he wanted...his Studio (or it it a Warehouse again).

Remains to be seen if he can 'privately' (and I use that term loosely since the 'Click Here to Donate' is still PUBLICLY displayed on the Axanar website) raise enough money from those Axanar supporters Gullib..er I guess Alec would say, supportive enough to keep pledging money to a person who has YET to himself, actually produce something substantial (because let's face it - all the professional Hollywood talent that GOT "Prelude to Axanar" made; bailed off the project months prior to the lawsuit.)
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dmac said:
Now

Now, there's your Trouble....

"ALEC: That’s half-right. Actually, while the Axanar feature film is limited to just two 15-minute segments, those guidelines relate exclusively to fan films and not to other forms of media. From an artistic, story-telling point of view, we’ve been given an interesting challenge by CBS and Paramount: live within these guidelines and try to tell your story.

When you think of what we accomplished with Prelude to Axanar, I think we can tell a pretty compelling story in 30 minutes. That is 50% more film than Prelude. And there are ways to tell the larger story of Axanar and the Four Years War in much more depth now…and a piece of that storytelling will be done via the two 15-minute video segments."
It's a little thing called math, Prelude was 2o minutes long, the feature film is allowed 30 minutes so lets see that's an extra 10 minutes
10/30 = .3 * 100 = 30%
You start dealing with millions of dollars and when the math is off by 20%, it tends to add up.
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Sooo... you're gonna license Trek rights to tell the Axanar story in those other media, right, Alec? And respect the studio decision if they prefer not to grant you or any of your associates those licenses, or license anything at all about that era for a while?
 
re-use the Star Trek actors I used before if they'll come back for free
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Tony Todd is for sure not coming back. The others? Would they do it for free? I'm thinking not so much.

In fact, I think there's a tacit warning from CBS/P for any actors who might want to be in future Trek shows to run away from this thing like it's got the cooties.

Except maybe Hatch. He ain't got much going on these days. Or for the last 40 years, give or take. So he might do it, just so people know he's not dead yet. :lol:
 
urbandefault said:
Tony Todd is for sure not coming back. The others? Would they do it for free? I'm thinking not so much.

In fact, I think there's a tacit warning from CBS/P for any actors who might want to be in future Trek shows to run away from this thing like it's got the cooties.

Except maybe Hatch. He ain't got much going on these days. Or for the last 40 years, give or take. So he might do it, just so people know he's not dead yet. :lol:
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Four known actors and Alec all trying to get their piece of 30 minutes after 20 of it is set aside for cgi pewpew? Hmm. Maybe they could do something where all of Axanar was a dream of Hatch's character. That would justify disconnected rapidfire flashbacks of unused footage and blurry shooting of filler on unfinished sets... burn the Quicken printouts when the inevitable ship is afire nothing works power is out but gravity is still fine scenes get their cameos...
 
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urbandefault said:
Tony Todd is for sure not coming back. The others? Would they do it for free? I'm thinking not so much.

In fact, I think there's a tacit warning from CBS/P for any actors who might want to be in future Trek shows to run away from this thing like it's got the cooties.

Except maybe Hatch. He ain't got much going on these days. Or for the last 40 years, give or take. So he might do it, just so people know he's not dead yet. :lol:
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Personally, I'm sure what Alec will do is try and use any already filmed footage of the actors that wasn't used in Prelude to Axanar. Like I said in another post, I'll be surprised if ANY new live action footage is actually shot. Alec will use what was filmed years ago from the "Axanar Heroes" vinette that was film on the New Voyages sets; and use all the VFX Tobias Richter that was done (and I believe both RMB and Alec Peters saud they had two-thirds of the Axanar feature VFX completed and delivered.)

So yeah, while Alec Peters milks any gullible donor that sends him money - and pays the unfinished studio lease rent with it - what they'll get is a glorified 'clip show' of things already shot, plus another hour of Alec Peters patting himself on the back for what was delivered, and dissing CBS/Paramount while claiming what 'Axanar' could/would have been.
 
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You know he's broke when he can't even afford fish and chips, let alone Sushi, the poor guy.

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For those in the UK Alec Peters is arranging a London Axanar meet-up for this Sunday. Anyone interested? :biggrin:
 
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Philip Guyott said:
You know he's broke when he can't even afford fish and chips, let alone Sushi, the poor guy.

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For those in the UK Alec Peters is arranging a London Axanar meet-up for this Sunday. Anyone interested? :biggrin:
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Quick question; what's the average cost on a cheap return flight from his neck of the woods to London, before accommodation etc etc? About £2,000?

$2,000
 
Philip Guyott said:
For those in the UK Alec Peters is arranging a London Axanar meet-up for this Sunday. Anyone interested? :biggrin:
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Awwwww shucks. He's safe from me. Great Northern is doing engineering works on the line this weekend between me and Kings Cross..........otherwise I might have been game to troll a bit.
 
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