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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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I have been told that it took 25 takes for him to do the scenes at the NV set... "he can't act". The decision to cast someone who looks younger, and presumably CAN act, is probably wise.
 
I have been told that it took 25 takes for him to do the scenes at the NV set... "he can't act". The decision to cast someone who looks younger, and presumably CAN act, is probably wise.

He can "Act" like a douchnozzle so he needs a role like that ;-)

No offense to actual douchnozzles out there intended.
 
I have been told that it took 25 takes for him to do the scenes at the NV set... "he can't act". The decision to cast someone who looks younger, and presumably CAN act, is probably wise.

I have heard the same thing actually...

Did nobody spot the joke on the last page?
 
Shouldn't casting be locked by 4-6 weeks away from photography? Plus the baiting and switching of actors promised vs who will actually BE in the final product? Not that I think they will actually start shooting........
 
Jedman67 said:
Why is it anyone's business what Todd charges?
Because Peters is petty, childish and vindictive?

He definitely has issues withholding that primal urge to strike back when someone criticizes him.

Regarding the casting "news," I'm a little surprised that was his "big" announcement. Nothing about "we're doing everything we can to shore up our legal defense, so we're un-Trekking this thing" and what not.

In any other situation, it could be viewed as a positive step, learning from, presumeably, the pained experience of James Cawley, who for years took endless and relentless ribbing about his acting, his Elvis persona, and his central role to New Voyages and who finally relinquished the starring role of Captain Kirk to another actor.

Peters is probably also thinking that it will give him a leg up, at least when it comes to public relations, against his favorite punching bag, Vic Mignogna, who is also in his fifties and playing someone 15 years younger than he actually is. The sad thing is -- Peters sucks at interacting with the public, so it will just come across as more arrogant trolling against Vic if he does go that route.
 
Thanks to whomever posted the "annual report". A few highlights...

One of my pet peeves has been that Axanar / Alec and girlfriend have travelled over the world for promotion. Not sure how that plays against crowdfunding... really you're funding this guy on vacation?

Some examples from their own report:

PRELUDE:
- 4/18/14 Table at Spacefest $200
- 4/21/14 Cards for Table $548.64
- 4/24/14 Hotels.ccom - hotel $537.28
- 4/29/14 Delta - Fedcon Airfare - $1,624.20
- 7/9/14 San Diego Comic Con - Ticket - $165.00
- 7/23/14 Delta - Airfare - $459.70

(note excludes some items like meals).


AXANAR (according to report, "rough breakdown")
- Advertising $6,246.83
- Auto $9,163.62
- Convention Expenses $2,670.00
- Film Festival Fees $2,180.88
- Travel $9,018.92

Yeah, this all sounds like production expenses to me. Gosh he went waaaaay overboard.
 
I notice he says that no contracts have been signed - I wonder how many of the current pro actors suddenly find that they have a proctologist appointment that would clash with filming?

AP - Would you like to be in Axanar ?

Actor - Gee, I'd love to, but, I have a doctor's appointment.

( read into that however you will )
 
Thanks to whomever posted the "annual report". A few highlights...

One of my pet peeves has been that Axanar / Alec and girlfriend have travelled over the world for promotion. Not sure how that plays against crowdfunding... really you're funding this guy on vacation?

Some examples from their own report:

PRELUDE:
- 4/18/14 Table at Spacefest $200
- 4/21/14 Cards for Table $548.64
- 4/24/14 Hotels.ccom - hotel $537.28
- 4/29/14 Delta - Fedcon Airfare - $1,624.20
- 7/9/14 San Diego Comic Con - Ticket - $165.00
- 7/23/14 Delta - Airfare - $459.70

(note excludes some items like meals).


AXANAR (according to report, "rough breakdown")
- Advertising $6,246.83
- Auto $9,163.62
- Convention Expenses $2,670.00
- Film Festival Fees $2,180.88
- Travel $9,018.92

Yeah, this all sounds like production expenses to me. Gosh he went waaaaay overboard.
If all that convention and promotion and travel expenses led to increased fundraising, then it could be rationalized. But yeah, that sounds pretty excessive when its being fan-funded.
 
I never understood the need to go to just about every con out there. I mean he could have done the cons or the banner ads I saw online everywhere trying to raise money. That would have been a little less excessive.
 
Hilariously, Tony Todd is still listed on the Axanar IndieGoGo page and their main website as part of the returning cast.

I did wonder about this after the Twitter comments. The Axanar team may have hoped that he could be convinced to return to the role once filming started in 2016, or they may have planned to include some of the scenes he filmed for "Prelude" in the actual film. It would make sense to use the speech scene in the film, if nothing else, from the footage that was already filmed.
 
I think we must get out of the habit of even passing reference to this being a fan film. It isn't, and we all agree on that.

Going by their logic, Beyond is a fan film because it's director is a fan.

Unless their argument is that the only difference because a "film" and "fan film" is that one is authorized and one is not. I doubt they want to use that bold legal strategy.

I think, they are trying to hang the legality of their project under the guise of it being "Non-Profit".... what I wonder is, IS it classified as a non profit by the IRS. I didn't see any demarkation in the Secretary State registry of corporations that it was.


From http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...

nonprofit corporation
n. an organization incorporated under state laws and approved by both the state's Secretary of State and its taxing authority as operating for educational, charitable, social, religious, civic or humanitarian purposes. A nonprofit corporation (also called "not for profit corporation") is formed by incorporators, has a board of directors and officers, but no shareholders. These incorporators, directors and officers may not receive a distribution of (any money from) profits, but officers and management may be paid reasonable salaries for services to the corporation. Upon dissolution of a nonprofit corporation its assets must be distributed to an organization existing for similar purposes under the "cy pres doctrine." In order for contributions to the corporation to be deductible as charitable gifts on federal income taxes, the corporation must submit a detailed application (with a substantial fee) for an Internal Revenue Service ruling that it is established for one of the specific nonprofit purposes spelled out in the Internal Revenue Code. Informational tax returns must be filed annually with the IRS and the state taxing body. In addition, the state Attorney General may have oversight powers to determine if the corporation is abiding by state laws by limiting its activities to its approved nonprofit purposes, and not milking the corporation for disguised profits.

Pro-CBS in bold. Pro-Axanar underlined.
 
Hang on a minute, Kickstarter states, as part of it's terms, that if you use someone else's IP you must have permission. If Peters signed up to Kickstarter and accepted the terms of business, indicating that he did have permission, wouldn't that provide a defence to Kickstarter?
Well, that's the $64,000 question. Apparently, Indiegogo and Kickstarter were vying for Axanar, at least according to Peters. If that is true, then perhaps something else was afoot. At the very least, if I were either company, I'd already have my lawyer on the line.
"Vying" for Axanar? What a load of crap.

The company I work for was recently involved in a major crowdfunding campaign. Indiegogo and Kickstater definitely competed with each other to have the company's campaign.

It would not surprise me if the same thing happened to Axanar, especially since the second Kickstarter raised more than $600,000. That's a lot of cash.

On the other hand, this could be Peters exaggerating in public. Kickstarter doesn't have Indiegogo's "flexible fundraising" option (another red flag, if you ask me) in which you (a) get paid whether or not you meet your goal and (b) can fundraise on the same page after your initial campaign is over. That may be the reason Peters left Kickstarter after three campaigns there (Axanar also ran the campaign for Marc Cushman's These Are The Voyages Volume 3 and collected an undisclosed percentage of the proceeds).
 
Can someone please provide a link to Alec's announcement from today (i.e., recasting Garth)?

I know, he would never EVER speak out, but I would love to hear James' thoughts on this whole thing....

Too bad he is to classy of a guy for that....
Just imagine that this is his statement: ;)
"I consider Alec a close personal friend and hope that this situation with CBS gets resolved in a timely manner."
 
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