CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

[Jedi_Master]

The comment "respect the spirit of the settlement" still cracks me up.
There is no "spirit" - there are terms mutually agreed upon, with specific remedies when they are violated.

What a numpty.

 

[captainkirk]

The question now is if there is a new lawsuit, will this thread reach 1000 pages?

 

[Krandor]

The question now is if there is a new lawsuit, will this thread reach 1000 pages?

Won't be a lawsuit. Would be an arbitration hearing.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Won't be a lawsuit. Would be an arbitration hearing.

Correct. I would actually donate to Axanar to be at that hearing.

 

[Krandor]

If I had to make a guess I'd say CBS lawyers are going to keep a lose eye on things this weekend. Good thing Alec is livestreaming it to make their jobs nice and easy.

 

[Admiral2]

I imagine, given he's fought them in court before, they were trying to avoid another costly legal action, but he just had to keep poking the bear.

That's because he didn't just fight them in court. He thinks he won. He thinks the fact that they didn't take the shirt off his back and let him make his stupid movie was CBS and Paramount surrendering to him. It's like he was mauled by the bear and told everybody he scared the bear off when the bear just let his dumb ass live.

He's going to keep poking until the bear finishes the job. CBS needs to open the cage.

 

[Csalem]

Part of me hopes they don't shut it down. If that is the case then the last few years continues of the powerful corporation stopping this plucky little fan-film. And the narrative would continue of how great this would have been, etc...

Instead I am more interested in the films being made so we can ask "what's next?"
The films will exist so everyone can judge how great they are, so the previously mentioned narrative can be based on something substantive, rather than the abstract.
And what does Alec Peters do once they are made? As I said, the last few years have been about the hurdles he has to "overcome" to make them. Well, let him make them and then we can see what he does next.

 

[jespah]

... the last few years have been about the hurdles he has to "overcome" ...

Hurdles which are 100% of his own making.

 

[Krandor]

Part of me hopes they don't shut it down. If that is the case then the last few years continues of the powerful corporation stopping this plucky little fan-film. And the narrative would continue of how great this would have been, etc...

Instead I am more interested in the films being made so we can ask "what's next?"
The films will exist so everyone can judge how great they are, so the previously mentioned narrative can be based on something substantive, rather than the abstract.
And what does Alec Peters do once they are made? As I said, the last few years have been about the hurdles he has to "overcome" to make them. Well, let him make them and then we can see what he does next.

What is next?
- Axanar audio play
- Axanar books
- Axanar comics
- Alec talking others into making Axanar fan films

 

[KennyB]

Part of me hopes they don't shut it down. If that is the case then the last few years continues of the powerful corporation stopping this plucky little fan-film. And the narrative would continue of how great this would have been, etc...

Don't drink that Kool-Aide..........

What is next?
- Axanar audio play
- Axanar books
- Axanar comics
- Alec talking others into making Axanar fan films

I know 3 outta 4 of those are already happening.........not sure about an audio play..........

 

[Krandor]

not sure about an audio play..........

Supposedly they are going to be recording the audio play this weekend as well. it will be of the full axanar script they are unable to film

 

[Krandor]

from https://www.11alive.com/article/ent...o-atl/85-6bf73f2e-f487-44cc-95ab-21cef3315311

"Now two additional “Axanar” episodes are in production and will shoot in Atlanta in October. In addition to the film, the actors will be recording the audiobook of the full two-hour script."

 

[Admiral2]

Part of me hopes they don't shut it down. If that is the case then the last few years continues of the powerful corporation stopping this plucky little fan-film. And the narrative would continue of how great this would have been, etc...

Instead I am more interested in the films being made so we can ask "what's next?"
The films will exist so everyone can judge how great they are, so the previously mentioned narrative can be based on something substantive, rather than the abstract.
And what does Alec Peters do once they are made? As I said, the last few years have been about the hurdles he has to "overcome" to make them. Well, let him make them and then we can see what he does next.

But there's a problem, and it's a theory I've put forward before and take the opportunity to do so again. The problem with saying "just let him make the films" is that he never wanted to make a film. That was never his goal. What he wanted was to turn "Prelude" into a money-making venture that lived on past just making the feature film. We have evidence of that from both Christian Gossett and Robert Meyer Burnett. He had plenty of opportinities to "just the make the film" before the lawsuit and the guidelines, and even after the lawsuit and guidelines he's had the opportunity to make the films, but all he's done in all this time is rent a warehouse he couldn't afford and moved the sets to another warehouse he could barely afford, open a coffee shop, dump his BS con on another fandom's con, sue and threaten to sue anyone who dared to say "point of order" to him and fleece well meaning Star Trek fans out of more than a million dollars with promises of films and patches, all because the idea of generating income on the promises is more important to him than actually fulfilling them.

The narrative would continue whether CBS took him down or not, because maintaining the cult of personality that wins him both moral and financial support requires an enemy to point to and blame. Finishing the films actually runs counter to his goals, because then the sycophants won't have any reason to bow and scrape to him. In this context, CBS is damned if they do and damned if they don't.

At least if they do, all Alec can do about it is bitch. I'm fine with that.

 

[Khan 2.0]

its ironic that AP might actually be as insane as Garth

 

[Krandor]

its ironic that AP might actually be as insane as Garth

I don’t think there is a might.

We are watching garths decent into madness through peters.

 

[F. King Daniel]

One day, there's going to be a documentary about all this. It won't be made by Alec Peters and it won't paint him in a positive light.

 

[Noname Given]

One day, there's going to be a documentary about all this. It won't be made by Alec Peters and it won't paint him in a positive light.

^^^
Doubt it. Honestly, this is all too niche for anyone to really care. At best it'll be a footnote comment on some quick entertainment report about some aspect of CBS an 'Star Trek' -- maybe.

 

[Krandor]

^^^
Doubt it. Honestly, this is all too niche for anyone to really care. At best it'll be a footnote comment on some quick entertainment report about some aspect of CBS an 'Star Trek' -- maybe.

Axanar:the documentary.

Directed by Christian gossett
Produced and edited by rmb
Technical consultant terry McIntosh.

 

[SITZKRIEG!]

^^^
Doubt it. Honestly, this is all too niche for anyone to really care. At best it'll be a footnote comment on some quick entertainment report about some aspect of CBS an 'Star Trek' -- maybe.

And an interesting exercise in "what if" and wasted potential for fans of the initial vision like myself. I prefer the 15 or so minutes we got in Prelude to all of the first season of DISCO (didn't bother watching the second so can't comment on that directly). After seeing Prelude, I really felt like they had caught lightning in a bottle when I first saw it. In the five years since, everything that followed is more like a fart in a jar.

 

[Noname Given]

And an interesting exercise in "what if" and wasted potential for fans of the initial vision like myself. I prefer the 15 or so minutes we got in Prelude to all of the first season of DISCO (didn't bother watching the second so can't comment on that directly). After seeing Prelude, I really felt like they had caught lightning in a bottle when I first saw it. In the five years since, everything that followed is more like a fart in a jar.

Then you must have LOVED Star Trek Into Darkness because that's where Tobias Rhicther copied the composition of a majority of his ship effects shots from. Aside from the sdesign of the U.S.S. Ares there was very little original in Prelude (Hell, the entire war story setup was lifted whole hog from a FASA Star Trek RPG Sourcebook and come on, there WAS NO REAL STORY HERE. It was a bunch of talking heads in front on greenscreens aping faux military tactic speeches in the style of any WWII/Vietnam/etc. war documentary where they have vets talk about a battle.

It wasn a VFX fest (again lifted for the most part from Star Trek Into Darkness) with a few easter eggs.