I see the time limit as more of a blessing than a curse. It should force amateur writers to focus on telling the story, rather than follow the inclination to chase every detail and wank every fannish desire.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens
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Honestly, fan films like the ones described by @captainkirk, IMHO stand a much greater chance of making a copyright case for transformativeness/fair use precisely because they're the kinds of stories the official franchise isn't interested in doing.
Right. I stand corrected.
It also dovetails with the funding ceiling. With the funding ceiling, does anyone think they could make a 2-hour film which wouldn't look cheap?I see the time limit as more of a blessing than a curse. It should force amateur writers to focus on telling the story, rather than follow the inclination to chase every detail and wank every fannish desire.
And again, if anyone thinks Mr. Peters was somehow doing 'Axanar' just to follow his 'dream' of making a fan film; and was "not in it for the money" - I just saw something from another tread in this very BBS discussing another 'tie in' Peters would get money from:
Post: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/is-star-fleet-battles-officially-dead.299611/page-5#post-13052937
From the above post:
Post: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/is-star-fleet-battles-officially-dead.299611/page-5#post-13052937
From the above post:
Interlude is now up to $17,526. Might reach its target of $19,500:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/interlude
https://www.gofundme.com/f/interlude
Of course no one sane thinks he was doing it 'for the love of the game'. Guy was all over this thing. Taking money directly, buying himself things indirectly, trying to sub-license things he didn't pay for the license to, using donated money to stand up a for-profit business, trying to sell things directly to places like Netflix, trying to sell the 'borrowed' unlicensed material back to the license-holder... Basically everything except spend money producing a product. He may have eventually gotten around to doing that, but he was going to 100% make sure he had his own financial business up and running first with his free cash...
I didn't think he'd come close to that so congrats to Lane.
Now comes the hard part - actually making the movie and preventing AP from taking credit for it.
And a heavy sigh for everybody who just donated money for some blogger to make a fan film of a fan film. A fan film that (everybody!) doesn't exist yet!
I could. But not if you're paying everyone. If you can throw all the money at the production you could, but you'd have to really know what you were doing and find locations you could redress rather than build sets.
That's fine, because if you're sticking to CBS' guidelines you're not allowed to pay anyone.
Since Jespah asked about a 2-hour film we were already outside the guidelines by a factor of 4.
When making a Star Trek as opposed to a generic sci-fi short, you don't need to waste time establishing the universe. Trekkies will know.
Agreed 100%. Around a decade ago, a group remade the Kirk/Pike recruitment scene from ST'09 with women and it was awesome. More stuff like described here.
Wasn't that K'mpec's ship?What, no love for the “Fat Man”?
No, it was a non-canon FASA design. One of the not-so-conventional configurations:
K'el ri'Anda-class battleship. Translated in full to “Dangerous Fat Man”.
I.K.S. Big Chungus.
K'el ri'Anda-class battleship. Translated in full to “Dangerous Fat Man”.
Because I believe the topic of long-form versus short-form film is actually a topic that deserves its own thread (and because I think a prolonged conversation about it is off-topic), I'm going to compose a separate response for this on a new thread. I'll post a link once I've started the thread. My replies to some of your comments will be part of that thread.
However, the thing that actually gets my metaphorical goat is that your comments ignore the reality of what just happened on this thread. It should not be difficult for you to understand how it might be emotionally draining to debate over a dozen people, with similar politics and ideologies and practiced responses, tag-teaming you over the span of multiple days. There is an ideological slant to the people posting on these forums, kept pure by the practice of "wolf packing" those with differing opinions, and when people in the ideological out-group are properly antagonized, they either leave or their understandably frustrated reactions are used against them by the moderators to boot them from the forums.
This is not a victory of your rhetoric, Maurice. It's a failure to offer an environment conducive to civil and constructive discourse.
This response irritates me on two levels. First, I think the tone and sentiment are childish and cruel, and from what I've seen of other messages you've posted, they are beneath you.
However, the thing that actually gets my metaphorical goat is that your comments ignore the reality of what just happened on this thread. It should not be difficult for you to understand how it might be emotionally draining to debate over a dozen people, with similar politics and ideologies and practiced responses, tag-teaming you over the span of multiple days. There is an ideological slant to the people posting on these forums, kept pure by the practice of "wolf packing" those with differing opinions, and when people in the ideological out-group are properly antagonized, they either leave or their understandably frustrated reactions are used against them by the moderators to boot them from the forums.
This is not a victory of your rhetoric, Maurice. It's a failure to offer an environment conducive to civil and constructive discourse.
What the hell are you babbling about? That poster was yet another in a long line of such people who come in here and rattle off a bunch of opinions we've discussed 100 times before and when people don't embrace it, leave. The poster had already said they were leaving, and I just pointed out how childish such behavior was. I stand by that.