True, but I believe AP's settlement with CBS/Paramount expressly forbids him from crowdfunding.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens
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I'd imagine just things directly tied to Axanar. Can't fault a guy for getting help to pay his rent, or moving expenses, etc., you know? Wink wink? Nudge nudge?
The entire first paragraph of that message was my tongue-in-cheek expression of what I thought AP's thought process was. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I would have thought the part about the "Axanar Set Preservation Society" would have given that away, but I guess not.
Exactly, although he has so little money left, I suspect CBS simply won't bother with him because legally going after him for his silly maneuvers would cost more in legal fees than they would extract from him. It's not like he can pull off another million-dollar Kickstarter at this point.
Yeah, basically, and I'm guessing CBS is like "Whatever. Let him keep his stupid set. Not worth our time."
I get what you're saying about his reputation, but consider the following:
1) Not too long ago, some people on this board were openly questioning the intentions of Ray Tesi. (Although I personally think he's genuinely trying to help the fan film community.)
2) Starbase Studios has basically disintegrated like Multibran Chex in a bowl of milk due to in-fighting.
AP's supporters will just say that the money was lost because CBS sued, and will point out stuff like the two points above. A better argument would be that Neutral Zone Studios (formerly Stage 9 Studios) and Starbase Studios both pledged to make their sets available to other fan film makers, whereas I'm not sure if Ares Studios has said anything similar regarding their own bridge set.
The overwhelming majority of YouTubers are on Patreon these days because YouTube has made it nearly impossible to make a living from video monitization unless you're cranking out low quality, entertainment-oriented content on a daily basis. Every other video I watch on YouTube these days has someone joking "Oops, there goes our monitization". People who are giants within their own niche communities aren't making enough ad revenue to buy a cheeseburger from the value menu.
Thank you, @JD. I appreciate it.
The goal of the original suit that CBS brought, and any subsequent suit, would not be to extract money from Peters. The point was to force him to stop claiming that he was making genuine Star Trek, and asking people to send him money to do so. Yes, if the trial had continued and CBS had won, there probably would have been severe financial penalties imposed on Peters, not to raise money for CBS (even to cover their legal bills), but to impress on Alec and anyone else considering following his path that there are heavy consequences from stealing CBS' IP. It was to make that point in a very unambiguous way.
If CBS sued him now, they would likely realize very little if any money from him. But they would very much make an example of him. As the old saying goes, "A hanging is not for the benefit of the hanged man."
He's pointing out an important distinction.
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Well, I for one never doubted him. I was sure all along there was litte to no truth in his statements.
They've already made an example of him. His project is on life support, they've already made him agree to most of the Guidelines, and even if they stand by and do nothing while he breaks the rules on funding, AP simply can't raise the money necessary to complete the kind of film he originally promised. Why bother hanging him when they can simply give him the rope to hang himself? Besides, if they interfere now, they only play into his narrative of victimhood.
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It's astonishing how much good will and donated funds/equipment Peters has squandered.
Indeed. Although I would replace “astonishing” with “despicable”, or “unforgivable”, or “disgusting”, or anything more on-the-mark.
I think the first reaction is WOW!
The second is HOW?
The third reaction includes rude gestures or language.
This ^
CBS is just sitting back and watching Axa implode.
I feel (a tiny bit) sorry for the families of the people who are, beggaring all belief, still donating to this trainwreck.
I like to think people would rather pay down credit card debt or mortgages, or make the kids in their lives have better birthdays and Christmases, or save for retirement, or give to charity rather than continue to line AP's pockets.
I'd argue that as long as there are still people dumb enough to donate, it isn't quite 'imploding'. Rather, he's not claiming to make 'real' Star Trek like he was previously - he's raising money to pay the bills on this C.F. (thereby removing all justification for CBS to come in and smash him)
CBS probably won't sue him again. As you said, his project and support have shrunk to almost nothing; it's mostly just Alec mouthing off at this point. But it's still possible he could fire things back up again and roar across the line that CBS has drawn, prompting them to finally swat him hard, once and for all. If it reaches that point, it won't matter that Alec will use it to play victim for his True Believers. He does that already.
With no Star Trek films on the horizon, JJ Abrams won't feel the need to butt in. But with Discovery already running fairly successfully, the Picard show getting ready to start production, and other future projects being developed, CBS may feel like making an example of Peters is worthwhile if he gets way out of line again. His supporters already swear they hate CBS' current Trek efforts, so they can't be turned off any more. But again, making an example of Alec would be worth every penny as a lesson for other would-be IP pirates.
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Yeah, if they have the kind of extra money that donating to something like Peters and co. is a possibility, there have got to be better places they could send it, like a real charity. If I had the extra money it would go to places like the Shriner's Childrens Hospitals or St. Jude's, or animal charities or something like that long before it would go to someone like Alec Peters.
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I don't think it was anything overly dramatic so much as the fact that he's produced nothing in the 18 months they subsidized him, and he had promised he would, and that OWC would be involved. Zero production has happened in that facility, and now won't ever since Peters can only get fans to pony up enough to pay for a much smaller facility.
I'm hoping that the move to a smaller facility is the final nail in the coffin for this languished project.
But it's likely not to be so. Peters will cling to Axanar like Rose did that chunk of wood when the Titanic sank.