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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

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I guess I’m an idiot. The only copyright that matters is the one owned by Viacom/CBS/Paramount. Nobody else. Should be as simple as that, no? How anyone - Alec, Paul, or anyone else - can claim copyright to anything even remotely Trek related continues to mystify me. If copyright law is not enforceable in favor or its owner, then what is the point of any of it? I guess this is how patents are stolen without recourse.
 
Steve Roby said:
See https://fanfilmfactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Paul-Jenkins-termination-letter.jpg. Jenkins's statement says, "Paul's rewritten Axanar script and all scenes filmed to date will not be used by the Axanar project as these materials are protected by copyright."
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Right.
Steve Roby said:
I remember noticing that line when the statement was first released and thinking, wait, what? I don't think Jenkins ever fully understood the situation he was in.
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Seem a rather charitable interpretation of the situation, but I suppose it's possible.
137th Gebirg said:
The only copyright that matters is the one owned by Viacom/CBS/Paramount.
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True.
137th Gebirg said:
I guess this is how patents are stolen without recourse.
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¿Qué?
 
^^^ A patent my dad’s company was working on 30 years ago on non-GPS line-of-sight for cell phones got mysteriously lifted by another rival company backed by a larger telecommunications company with deeper pockets. I was working on the mapping system for the presentation layer back then, one of my first jobs. Years of litigation went nowhere because of said deeper pockets of our adversary and eventually mobile phone technology evolved beyond this particular idea’s usefulness - higher frequency forward/reverse channels with shorter range and requiring less transmission power, more numerous cell towers that interfered with directional signal tracking, etc. Many years and several millions in venture capital wasted and opportunity lost. I know this wasn’t the only instance of this happening in all of human history.

Copyright and patents are similar concepts, whose ideals, at the end of the day, are specifically designed to protect intellectual property. If it’s so easy to steal other people’s work for profit (not fair use) and nobody within the so-called “justice system” that’s willing or able to enforce the existing laws, then what’s the point of making the laws? Wasting taxpayer dollars on perfunctory legislators? People say that without the laws we would have anarchy. Seems to me we’ve already been there for some time.
 
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Steve Roby said:
See https://fanfilmfactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Paul-Jenkins-termination-letter.jpg. Jenkins's statement says, "Paul's rewritten Axanar script and all scenes filmed to date will not be used by the Axanar project as these materials are protected by copyright."

I remember noticing that line when the statement was first released and thinking, wait, what? I don't think Jenkins ever fully understood the situation he was in.
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Okay. That's all I needed to see.
 
137th Gebirg said:
I guess I’m an idiot. The only copyright that matters is the one owned by Viacom/CBS/Paramount. Nobody else. Should be as simple as that, no? How anyone - Alec, Paul, or anyone else - can claim copyright to anything even remotely Trek related continues to mystify me. If copyright law is not enforceable in favor or its owner, then what is the point of any of it? I guess this is how patents are stolen without recourse.
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That really was the point I was trying to make (not very well, it would seem). The idea that these guys would accuse each other of violating each other's copyrights when Axanar is built around somebody else's intellectual property just strikes me as ludicrous...:shrug:
 
While I appreciate the many pages of erudite conversation on this topic, I think you will all be embarrassed when Alec produces the carefully prepared, thoroughly vetted, painfully detailed written agreement between Paul Jenkins, META Productions, Alec Peters, and Axanar Productions.
I am sure his attorneys are highlighting the relevant passages of said agreement as we speak.
 
Indeed...
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Jedi_Master said:
While I appreciate the many pages of erudite conversation on this topic, I think you will all be embarrassed when Alec produces the carefully prepared, thoroughly vetted, painfully detailed written agreement between Paul Jenkins, META Productions, Alec Peters, and Axanar Productions.
I am sure his attorneys are highlighting the relevant passages of said agreement as we speak.
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Can I PLEASE HAVE some of what you must be smoking?? I really NEED a good break from reality today! ;):rommie:
 
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