"carpenter street" ep

[frenchman]

what do you think about this episode?

i think it was boring. reptilians found a human to help them (a human who don't know who is working for)? how did they find him? we don't know!
reptilians can use cell phone??? ok!!

i think this episode was used to show the division between the xindi and that's all.

 

[Mach5]

I agree, it was pretty redundant. One of Season 3's low points.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I thought it was a great ep.

They found the human by means of zeroing in on who would do anything for money. Who had ways, means and no scruples. Who was MOST REPTILIAN. But a weak one that they could control. I bet they scared the shit out of him and then made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

I remember the first time I saw this ep I had some sympathy with the human when he was arrested in the end. It's always been a mystery to me during subsequent viewings WHY I had that reaction.

"The Vulcan Science Academy has determined.." Another nail in the coffin for T'Pol and the Vulcan authorities.

 

[Dane_Whitman]

While not a favourite I always enjoy this episode. It was interesting to see Trek put 'our heroes' into such an ugly, miserable place as Detroit. I always like Leland Orser and this episode had one of the things 'I Thought I Would Never See On Star Trek':

Our noble heroes in a fast food chain's drive-in ordering terrible quality burgers and fries.

 

[Marie1]

I liked it- the idea of them taking out everyone via bio weapon, the fact a human was aiding them in wiping out humanity- and tried to protect them for money, the depth of the Reptilian's hatred despite it being unjustified...

 

[JiNX-01]

Carpenter Street for me is a "meh" episode and is one of six S3 episodes that I think add little or nothing to the season 3 storyline.

In this case, all it adds is proof that the aliens helping the Xindi are duplicitous, going behind the backs of the other Council members to help the Reptilians devise a bioweapon which the Council had already decided against.

The idea of sending Archer and T'Pol into the past to prevent a disaster isn't a bad one and could have worked in another time. But considering the quality of many other episodes that drew me in (Anomaly, Impulse, Twilight, Similitude, Strategem, Proving Ground, Azati Prime, Damage, The Forgotten, Countdown and Zero Hour), Carpenter Street just doesn't come close.

 

[Bluejay]

what do you think about this episode?

i think it was boring. reptilians found a human to help them (a human who don't know who is working for)? how did they find him? we don't know!
reptilians can use cell phone??? ok!!

i think this episode was used to show the division between the xindi and that's all.

Heh, weeelll... there's the internet. They could just get whatever they want just by doing what we do. Rent a warehouse, payment, employ someone, without even meeting face to face. Just twiddle some buttons.

 

[gblews]

what do you think about this episode?

i think it was boring. reptilians found a human to help them (a human who don't know who is working for)? how did they find him? we don't know!
reptilians can use cell phone??? ok!!

i think this episode was used to show the division between the xindi and that's all.

This is one of my guilty pleasures episodes for a number of small and kind of quirky reasons.

One of the things that comes out of this episode is of major importance later in the Xindi story. So there was considerably more to it than just showing division between Xindi factions.

 

[ialfan]

I really liked this episode. A guilty pleasure maybe but I liked it.

 

[Infern0]

Why has no one mentioned the Burger Land scene yet! one of the funniest moments on Enterprise

 

[indranee]

it had promise. I wrote a fanfic about it because it had a lot of interesting shadows that had texture. but as it stands, yes, it was a mediocre episode in an otherwise stellar season.

 

[indranee]

Why has no one mentioned the Burger Land scene yet! one of the funniest moments on Enterprise

yes, good one. as I wrote above, it had some very promising scenes but it was meant to be a filler episode that drove the plot, so not much got done about the episode itself. it was important to the story not in terms of what came within but only in what it contributed toward the overall story arc.

 

[Kalen Archer]

Carpenter Street is one of my guilty pleasures. I can see why people think it's boring or mediocre but I can't help liking it!

 

[commodore64]

I really only like the drive-thru meal scene and the scene where Archer asks T'Pol to come with him. Jolene as T'Pol, however, is great in this ep.

As a criticism, the one thing that I love about futuristic characters visiting our time is the challenges they face with stuff we find pretty mundane -- like driving a car and getting cash out of the ATM. I was disappointed the characters didn't have more trouble driving a car, getting cash out of the ATM or other things we find mundane.

 

[Deks]

I liked this particular episode.
I especially liked it when Archer was jumping down and hit stomach was revealed for a split second.

But of course, that's not the only reason I liked it.

I found the episode enjoyable indeed, although why Daniels couldn't have sent anyone else is very curious.
It's possible he was working independently, and perhaps 1000 years into the future (from Archer's perspective) only 1 Human is needed for large operations.
Also, recruiting other people instead from his time frame could have been part of the idea.
Daniels didn't have to be entirely honest about the whole future and what it entails.
He can always bend the truth a little because it's possible he knows that these people from the past are meant to know a certain % of information, but not everything.

Even though numerous things are 'sketchy' at best ... they can be explained to fit with Trek continuity.
I'm sure I can also put in more thought and intelligence into the matter, but at the moment I'm a bit tied up

 

[JiNX-01]

I was disappointed the characters didn't have more trouble driving a car... .

Well, apparently they still have cars in the 22nd century. Trip mentions in the dreaded "Precious Cargo" owning a car and taking his girlfriend parking.

 

[bluedana]

Yes, one of my "guilty pleasures" also. As gblews said, it's quirky. It's got interesting camera angles, and the whole teaser is someone who's non-crew. Perhaps because I grew up on police procedurals (The Rookies, Streets of San Francisco, Starsky & Hutch), the whole buddy-cop vibe is very cool to me. And then there's Burger Land. I like the sheer exasperation of it all, those primitive road bumps, like driving the truck and ordering a simple burger. The searching for a vehicle scene - especially after they wake up the dog - makes me laugh every time. And then, down the road, you realize that it's important to the overall plot as well.

 

[Marie1]

One thing I didn't like in this or any episode... is when people spit when they talk. Its gross. Do a retake!

 

[Middleman]

It was an interesting episode, although not one of the best of Season 3. The episode seemed only partially important to the Xindi arch and was a bit filler episode as well IMO.

 

[Mott the barber]

I liked this one. The main guest actor was great.