Caretaker - The lack of water?

[Lynx]

I do have a theory about the lack of water so I take the liberty to quote what I've written on the Kes Website on the page "Voyager's Mysteries-and how to solve them".

"[FONT=Verdana]According to what we saw in "Caretaker" the Kazon-Ogla who were living on the Ocampa planet had problems with finding water. Neelix too did seem to have that problem. Now, that looks and sounds a bit strange because there would always be a chance to find ice in space, at least on some planet nearby. They did have spaceships of rather good quality after all.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana]But there's a possible explanation for that problem. If we look at the Ocampa system, Ocampa is the fifth of six planets. According to the book "Star Trek Roleplaying Games, Aliens" which is the only source of information about the Ocampa system, except for the official Star Trek sources, the Ocampa system is the sun Caeleron plus six planet, five smaller ones plus a gas giant. The four inner planets are to small, hot and rocky to have any water. The fifth planet which is Ocampa has no water on the surface and the sixth planet is a gas giant, apparently without moons, maybe some small rocky asteroids orbiting it but in that case they are too small to contain any water or ice.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]We can also assume that the wars and conflicts between the Kazon sects has made it very difficult for the Kazon-Ogla who are living on the Ocampa surface to travel outside the system. Maybe they are under siege from the Kazon-Nistrim or some other Kazon sect which makes it difficult for them to travel outside the system and difficult for other Kazon-Ogla ships to deliver water to them. As they don't want to leave Ocampa with its valuable Cormaline which they use to trade with, they have to live with the water problem, at least until they can make peace with other Kazon sects nearby or find water in some other way."[/FONT]​

Well, it's at least a decent try to explain the water problem.

 

[Timo]

I think we can all agree that the Caretaker getting left in the Delta Quadrant was the result of a situation akin to a person taking their unwanted pet into the wilderness tying it to a post, then driving off and leaving it there.

Absolutely. See, there, we can be of one mind about something!

...Although it's no fun at all, gotta say. Oh, well. Here's to better times.

"As they don't want to leave Ocampa with its valuable Cormaline which they use to trade with, they have to live with the water problem, at least until they can make peace with other Kazon sects nearby or find water in some other way."

Probably just what the writers thought, too. And Neelix, while theoretically spaceborne, is stuck there as well. It's not as if he's dying of thirst in his ship or anything, but he has better uses for oxygen and hydrogen than bathing if he's going to extend his stakeout until the Kazon relax their guard. "Hell freezes" comes to mind, although "Rains on Ocampa" is probably what Neelix is thinking about.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Guy Gardener]

recycled urine.

They're not even nice words to say.

Although.

Archer was fine with it.

Hell, his boots were made out of poop and he was proud of them.

 

[Sandoval]

You can't constantly recycle your own urine. Believe me I've tried, the water rates around here are extortionate.

Sando Sandovelius

 

[Guy Gardener]

Neelix by himself?

That could prove problematic, but those Kazon City ships were likely a home to thousands of "people" with out a discerning application of smell, which would equate to a complicated and varied water-table. Hells at the level of tech we're some times lead to believe (Janeway should have been able to beam through their shields. I'm certain to believe that the only reason that kathryn didn't beam the kazon Maje into her brig, or just his arms, is that she didn't fathom that anyone could have shield technology so pathetic and entry level it couldn't guard against transporters.) that they muddled through with, that even Jim Kirk should have been able to spank them in his rinkydink Enterprise.

The Kazon might have to take a thousand people with them in those ships merely to survive and stay water rich between reservoirs.

 

[Frank Force]

Thanks for the replies everyone!

 

[Lord Manitou]

Because of recent explorations and discoveries in our solar system, running out of water should be quite impossible.
If the Ocampa system lacked water running to another system would not be economically feasable.
Some say there is more water around Jupiter than the mass of earth.
There is more natural fuel around Saturn to supply us for the next 100000 yrs.

 

[Lynx]

Because of recent explorations and discoveries in our solar system, running out of water should be quite impossible.
If the Ocampa system lacked water running to another system would not be economically feasable.
Some say there is more water around Jupiter than the mass of earth.
There is more natural fuel around Saturn to supply us for the next 100000 yrs.

^^
That's why I came up with my theory that they were under siege from other Kazon sects so they couldn't get to the water.

By the way, I really like the Wumi story on your website!

 

[exodus]

Because of recent explorations and discoveries in our solar system, running out of water should be quite impossible.
If the Ocampa system lacked water running to another system would not be economically feasable.
Some say there is more water around Jupiter than the mass of earth.
There is more natural fuel around Saturn to supply us for the next 100000 yrs.

^^
That's why I came up with my theory that they were under siege from other Kazon sects so they couldn't get to the water.

By the way, I really like the Wumi story on your website!

That still doesn't hold water.
It was still a decent guess.

Neelix is a trader and allowed to come and go from the system as he pleases. We can assume from that that the Kazon deal with other traders too. There's nothing we've seen that suggests that the Ogla can't be supplied water from traders traveling to and from outside systems.

Also why is it not possable to drill for water on one of the sister planets in the Ocampian system? They're hot and rocky on the surface but there's no wells of water within them?

 

[The_Baroness]

Also why is it not possable to drill for water on one of the sister planets in the Ocampian system? They're hot and rocky on the surface but there's no wells of water within them?

Are there in our solar system?

 

[Lord Manitou]

Lynx post:

That's why I came up with my theory that they were under siege from other Kazon sects so they couldn't get to the water.

By the way, I really like the Wumi story on your website!
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Who'd let that cat in here?

Thankyou. The Wumi story eventually became my creation when I developed it on the James M. website that was devoted to Kess.
I am alittle proud of it and it also includes some points on topology that are interesting to me. I started writing about Star Trek when I joined the KISS website. Since then I have alove affair with Trek and dare not let it pass bye.