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Caretaker and The Voyager Conspiracy

If that Cardassian ship was sent back no doubt it was all classified top secret. Could Seska have known what would happen and been on a secret mission to do DQ recon and maybe raid Caretaker tech? Possibly, but more likely she was just a deep cover Maquis infiltrator.
 
I prefer the conspiracy involving the Romulans and Telek. He informs the Romulans of Voyager's adventures years before they even set off for the Badlands.

Maybe the Caretaker was in on it. :shifty:
 
He also disguised himself as one of the ex Borg drones in "Survival Instinct."

This conspiracy is massive.

I don't know who to trust.
 
You know that Requiem for Methuselah and The Man from Earth were both written by Jerome Bixby. :D

Funny story, but the producer of The Man from Earth, selling dvds on his website shat a brick one morning, wondering why the fuck 30 thousand people (since yesterday) wanted to buy a dvd he hadn't (traditionally mass) advertised because the entire operation was on a shoe string. It didn't take long to work out that someone had uploaded his movie to a torrent site and a lot of nerds who watched it illegally, either wanted a good copy of the movie or wanted to financially support the cast and crew by buying a dvd.

300 grand later, the producer sent a thank You letter to the/a popular Torrent site to thank the criminals of the world for saving his movie and making his crew and cast feel appreciated and loved for a job well done.
 
Neelix will usually get to a reasonable facsimile of the truth in situations where he's providing intel to either puff himself up or that's he's just not sure about. So he says unequivocally, that the ship abductions having been going on for months. I'll give him full marks on that one, especially since, as it happens, the Ocampan nurse verifies that remark a bit later on. Then he starts high and works his way down on the estimate of how many vessels have been so hijacked. He stops at fifty. Now, if one figures how long it takes Banjoman to make his crew assessments on each ship, such an estimate might not be too far off the mark. But for the sake of argument, let's say it's off by half. That's not very much if we don't work under the assumption that ships were all taken from the same area, but instead from all over the three other quadrants, or even just the entirety of the Alpha. As been already pointed out, some races would be unlikely to divulge such losses. So, I think that it's quite possible that knowledge of these goings on would not have been pieced together. As to his contention that he supposes the ships are sent back if their crew is found lacking, I'm not sure why he would even suggest it at all if he didn't have some sense that it was true, perhaps viewing a single instance in which it occurred. Strangely, I find that I haven't able to find that line now, when I was sure I knew when it was delivered previously.

As far as the contention that the debris field was a starship graveyard, it would seem unlikely that Neelix would make the statement above, if he was scavenging an area that obviously contained some of those ships that had been shanghaied. However, having had another look at the scene it would appear that a number of the objects appear to be of the size and configuration, that a conclusion that they are remnants of ships seems pretty reasonable. That they are debris of abducted vessels or just what's left of internecine Kazon conflict is problematic.
 
I'd like to point out this was the only time in private (during dinner, not in general) where Janeway showed skin around her first officer. The episode where the theme was mistrust. I found that interesting.
 
This thought just occurred to me. Caretaker was concerned about the Kazon annihilating the Ocampa, correct? He also decimated their planet. Soo.... why not either relocate the Ocampa to another planet outside of Kazon territory, use a displacement wave to bring another planet into the same sector, or use the displacement wave to transport every Kazon ship to the void between the Milky Way and Andromeda? I guess it makes more sense to bring ships from all over the galaxy and run a train on them... :p
 
Caretaker didn't think that the kazon would kill the Ocampa.

He knew that the Kazon would take their water, and then the idiot child race he protects would die of thirst. It doesn't matter where he moved them, there would have been a pack of assholes out there in space where ever he sent them that would have turned them into cows or slaves and taken everything they had of value the moment Caretaker died and couldn't protect them anymore.

All unclaimed space is Kazon Space.

No claimed space's claimees would consent to a space god setting down roots unless their plan was to kill that god and take his technology.
 
The Caretaker express is a very dangerous numbers game.
He steals a ship, checks the crew and throws the ship back. Just look at what happened to Voyager, a late 24th century Federation starship - severe damage, crewmen killed, some had medical side effects...

So it is likely that some ships arrive in the DQ significantly depopulated, and the crew is killed through the Caretaker's negligence.
And if he send a starship back it may just blow up on arrival.
 
Nelix's logs recorded 51 foreign ships appearing before the arrival of Voyager.

Caretaker could send ships back, but he didn't, because he is a jerk.
 
He steals a ship, checks the crew and throws the ship back.

All the evidence would suggest the Caretaker did not send ships back. The only person who claimed he did was Neelix and he was simply speculating.

NEELIX: Well, after he sampled the crew's DNA he sent them back where they came from, I suppose.
 
Well, even with an operation that ran for some months, he may very well have concluded that his odds of success were pretty low, so that to spend time on repatriating his abductees simply couldn't be shoehorned into his increasingly dire situation. Maybe, he should have given the projects years instead, in which case my impression is that his natural inclination would have been to complete the ships' round trip.
 
It is also possible that the Caretaker might have needed a larger sampling of the same species to determine whether he could reproduce an offspring with them - he also might have seen early DNA from the Equinox crew and subsequently Chakotay's raider ship and determined that it had potential... so he would target a larger Federation ship once one was inside the Badlands (because he would have determined by then that the Federation would likely send rescue parties by studying their database - or the process would be done automatically, with the computer highlighting potential targets for the Caretaker's review).

As for ships being sent back... it might be possible that he sent only a few ships back through an automation system, in which case, the Cardassians might have classified the whole thing (and I don't think Central command at the time would have cared if a few Federation ships vanished either, possibly with no way of getting back). but it seems more like that given how volatile the initial transition to the DQ was for Voyager, the Cardassian ship (and possibly most ships brought by the Caretaker) might not have survived the trip back - and the crew might not have had sufficient time to repair it... or they did repair it to a degree, but not enough to make the trip back.

Starfleet ships are capable of self-repair though, so while the Warp core initially needed attention from the engineers, most of the other damage was apparently manageable by the computer itself, because by the time the crew returned, the ship seemed fully functional and not in a damaged state (which might also explain why it had problems with energy reserves later on - that was a major self-repair the ship's computer would have performed - along with large energy demands of a weakened warp core, and subsequent battle with the Kazon would also require large amounts of energy).

The Caretaker might not have sent any ships back due to the problems of risking destroying them in the process... but it is possible he tried in some cases, which still resulted in their destruction mid transit (this seems more likely).
 
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