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Cardassia as an Alpha Quadrant Power

Photon

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Could the Cardassian Union have become an AQ power (on a part w/the Romulans & Klingons) if it had simply left Bajor alone?
 
Probably would be worse. They went to Bajor cause they really needed those resources. Or so it seems to me.
 
I had thought about that, but Cardassia perhaps had used that skilled tech and innovation to develop other sources to serve their needs, they wouldn't have squandered men and material to conquer an otherwise docile people.

At best it was a wash for Cardassia in terms of what they got back from Bajor
 
They needed the resources. The CU was starved of the required materials and Bajor had them in abundance, remember it took 60 years to strip mine the planet. I figure that Cardassia had to teat Bajor differently for this very reason and because there would be little or no resistance to the Occupation.:brickwall:

I'm sure the Cardassians dealt with other worlds on a case by case basis. They are a smart people.

And the Cardassians were an Alpha Quadrant power on a par with the Romulans and the Klingons, it was Writers fiat that made them weak:mad:
 
I think that had the Cardassians focused on alliances and trade rather than conquest, they could well have become VERY people. They're smart, resourceful, and disciplined...had they gone that route, I think it could've really benefitted them. Had they gone that route and used those traits for business and trade, I suspect they could've (for instance) cut seriously into Ferengi market share, as well as gotten a lot of contracts that were going to the Federation.
 
The Cardassians were a major alpha quadrant power for a while, their decline mostly due to internal issues plus resource problems. In TNG they touched on long term hostilities between the Federation & Cardassia, for instance.

Bajor... it sounds like Cardassia was near catastrophy before they invaded and stripped the planet of resources. At least, that's what the books imply.
 
Cardassia was always a third rate power. Yes they annoyed the Federation some but the big guns were always looking at the Klingons and the Romulans. Much like the Soviet Union was keeping an eye on China and The United States, but would get annoyed by Afghanistan.
 
Using WWII as an analogy, the Dominion was Germany, the Breen were Japan, and Cardassia was Italy. The Son'a were Bulgaria.
 
Using WWII as an analogy, the Dominion was Germany, the Breen were Japan, and Cardassia was Italy. The Son'a were Bulgaria.

Then re:WWII, is the USA the UFP, the USSR the “Klingons”, the UK the Romulans.

Who'd the Ferengi be?

Replying to Photon's Thread Initiating Post, if instead of being interstellar conquistadores, what if the Cardies had outreached to the UFP, Talarians, the Nyberrite Alliance, & maybe also engaged in Cardie-benefitting commerce with the Sheliaks?

Maybe the Cardies could've diplomapped & “JR Ewinged” their way out of their conundrums instead of becoming Space Mongols invading & annexing nearby solar systems?

Too late for any of that now:mad:

800+ billion Cardie cadavers too late:evil:
 
Using WWII as an analogy, the Dominion was Germany, the Breen were Japan, and Cardassia was Italy. The Son'a were Bulgaria.

Then re:WWII, is the USA the UFP, the USSR the “Klingons”, the UK the Romulans.

Who'd the Ferengi be?

Replying to Photon's Thread Initiating Post, if instead of being interstellar conquistadores, what if the Cardies had outreached to the UFP, Talarians, the Nyberrite Alliance, & maybe also engaged in Cardie-benefitting commerce with the Sheliaks?

Maybe the Cardies could've diplomapped & “JR Ewinged” their way out of their conundrums instead of becoming Space Mongols invading & annexing nearby solar systems?

Too late for any of that now:mad:

800+ billion Cardie cadavers too late:evil:

Chief and Gen Martok didn't shed a tear.
 
Martok had better not be surprised to wind up dead for that insult, drinking a toast among the Cardassian dead...
 
Using WWII as an analogy, the Dominion was Germany, the Breen were Japan, and Cardassia was Italy. The Son'a were Bulgaria.

Then re:WWII, is the USA the UFP, the USSR the “Klingons”, the UK the Romulans.

I disagree. I would say USA would be the Romulans and the UK would be the UFP. After all, the Rommies wanted to stay out of the war, much like the USA, until they were directly attacked (well, sorta, in the Rommie's case) and were drawn into it.
 
Using WWII as an analogy, the Dominion was Germany, the Breen were Japan, and Cardassia was Italy. The Son'a were Bulgaria.

Then re:WWII, is the USA the UFP, the USSR the “Klingons”, the UK the Romulans.

Who'd the Ferengi be?

Portugal. Or Brazil, if we want to pretend that Ferenginar declared late in the game, which I like to believe.

The UFP/USA comparison is a little problematic, because we want the UFP to represent the US, but the neutral power that needed to be roped into the war was Romulus.

Ideologically, the Romulans are the USSR. I'd say the Klingons fit the British case better, because of a long-standing alliance and cultural/economic ties with the Feds.

Edit: actually, perhaps we want the UFP to be the USSR. Penniless communists that they are.:p
 
Using WWII as an analogy, the Dominion was Germany, the Breen were Japan, and Cardassia was Italy. The Son'a were Bulgaria.

Then re:WWII, is the USA the UFP, the USSR the “Klingons”, the UK the Romulans.

Who'd the Ferengi be?

Portugal. Or Brazil, if we want to pretend that Ferenginar declared late in the game, which I like to believe.

The UFP/USA comparison is a little problematic, because we want the UFP to represent the US, but the neutral power that needed to be roped into the war was Romulus.

Ideologically, the Romulans are the USSR. I'd say the Klingons fit the British case better, because of a long-standing alliance and cultural/economic ties with the Feds.

Does this actually fit though. I mean, the US joined the war as a result of being attacked by Japan. The British are more like the Federation, with the US as the Romulans; who chose to remain neutral until they were attacked by one of the Nazi's allies.

I suppose that would make the Vorta like the Austrians. Who basically did what the Nazi's told them.

I like the Cardassia = Italy analogy.

So who, in WW2, are analagous to the Bajorans. The French? The Belgians?
 
Then re:WWII, is the USA the UFP, the USSR the “Klingons”, the UK the Romulans.

Who'd the Ferengi be?

Portugal. Or Brazil, if we want to pretend that Ferenginar declared late in the game, which I like to believe.

The UFP/USA comparison is a little problematic, because we want the UFP to represent the US, but the neutral power that needed to be roped into the war was Romulus.

Ideologically, the Romulans are the USSR. I'd say the Klingons fit the British case better, because of a long-standing alliance and cultural/economic ties with the Feds.

Does this actually fit though. I mean, the US joined the war as a result of being attacked by Japan. The British are more like the Federation, with the US as the Romulans; who chose to remain neutral until they were attacked by one of the Nazi's allies.

I suppose that would make the Vorta like the Austrians. Who basically did what the Nazi's told them.

I like the Cardassia = Italy analogy.

So who, in WW2, are analagous to the Bajorans. The French? The Belgians?

No analogies to the French b/c all the AQ powers and associated planets fought. I guess that planet where The Boy got into a little trouble might be the French
 
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