Captain Replacement.
- Thread starter Udat
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In all fairness, Chakotay would have made a good captain. I know I rag on him a lot, but he really is a good leader. Plus, as the first officer, it would fall to him anyway.
He'd have to in order to maintain the balance of having one Starfleet and one Maquis in charge.
It only makes sense.
It only makes sense.
Tu-vok! Tu-vok! Tu-vok! Ru-dy! Whoops, I mean, Tu-vok!
Tuvok would have my vote. You could say that, since it's a Starfleet ship, command should pass to the next Starfleet officer in rank.
Plus I just think he'd make a better captain.
Plus I just think he'd make a better captain.
I agree. Chakotay would have been fine as Captain.
Have you seen King Ralph?
Something catastrophic is always happening, and if during resolutions Tuvok or Paris got the flu or fell down a turbo elevator shaft, then B'Elanna would have been shuffled up into the big two.
I think her command would have been interesting because of that argument from the pilot
"Why do I have to do what she says?"
"BECAUSE SHE'S THE CAPTAIN!"
Something catastrophic is always happening, and if during resolutions Tuvok or Paris got the flu or fell down a turbo elevator shaft, then B'Elanna would have been shuffled up into the big two.
I think her command would have been interesting because of that argument from the pilot
"Why do I have to do what she says?"
"BECAUSE SHE'S THE CAPTAIN!"
Chakotay was made first officer in the first place only for reasons of in-ship politics. While Chakotay would take command of the ship for short time periods, the only person besides Janeway ever to be in command of the Voyages for a extended duration was Tuvok while Janeway and Chakotay were left on that planet.
As a ploy, sure make Chakotay first officer, but never Captain.
Chakotay was made first officer in the first place only for reasons of in-ship politics. While Chakotay would take command of the ship for short time periods, the only person besides Janeway ever to be in command of the Voyages for a extended duration was Tuvok while Janeway and Chakotay were left on that planet.
As a ploy, sure make Chakotay first officer, but never Captain.
Okay, think about what you just said here.
The only time anyone was in long term control was Tuvok when both the captain and first officer were not an option. Well, yeah, that makes sense.
But, remember "Before and After" and "Coda"? In both scenarios when Janeway dies, Chakotay is put in charge because he was first officer and, thus, next in line.
Chakotay, for all intents and purposes is the first officer, and that is not just in name.
There are countless examples of Janeway making reference to how glad she is to have him in that role, and she treats him as a first officer, not just a figurehead.
Look, I don't really care for the character. He's a stick as far as I'm concerned. However, he wasn't just a 'pretty boy'. He was her first officer, and he was the next in line.
From a legal perspective, I don't see how Chakotay would take over. He's not a Starfleet officer, not an official first officer, etc., and Voyager is a Federation starship.
His position is analogous to Kira on DS9, except that in that case, it was a Bajoran station officially, so she could legally take over, but if it had been a federation station and Sisko had died, Worf should've taken over as Captain, NOT Kira.
So really since none of the other four candidates in this poll are officially Starfleet officers, the only legal choice would be Tuvok, and therefore my vote goes to him.
His position is analogous to Kira on DS9, except that in that case, it was a Bajoran station officially, so she could legally take over, but if it had been a federation station and Sisko had died, Worf should've taken over as Captain, NOT Kira.
So really since none of the other four candidates in this poll are officially Starfleet officers, the only legal choice would be Tuvok, and therefore my vote goes to him.
Any of the Maquis can receive binding field commissions from "anyone" on the ship up to but not exceeding the rank (one rank below?) of the officer handing out the field commission.
In before and After Captain Chakotay had pips on his collar. Not a provisional rank badge.
Either Janeway gave him a field promotion with her last dying breath, which she didn't because we saw her die, or Captain Tuvok gave Chakotay a Field Comission of Captain and then stepped down to XO.
In before and After Captain Chakotay had pips on his collar. Not a provisional rank badge.
Either Janeway gave him a field promotion with her last dying breath, which she didn't because we saw her die, or Captain Tuvok gave Chakotay a Field Comission of Captain and then stepped down to XO.
Are you thinking that Turkey Platter doesn't have an important job?
As section head, he'd have a few staff who had official duty shifts and then he'd have to lion tame the rest of the crew that wanted to play the role of tourist. That and he probably has some input or veto on the course they're plotting since "his people" are doing the driving.
Tuvok was tactical and security.
Chakotay didn't have a second job. He just managed the crew.
As section head, he'd have a few staff who had official duty shifts and then he'd have to lion tame the rest of the crew that wanted to play the role of tourist. That and he probably has some input or veto on the course they're plotting since "his people" are doing the driving.
Tuvok was tactical and security.
Chakotay didn't have a second job. He just managed the crew.
I don't know much about field commissions or promotions-aren't they only temporary until confirmed by a central legal source? (Like in this case Starfleet Command, the UFP Government, etc.)
I mean it made sense from a pragmatic perspective for Janeway to give former Maquis some high ranking positions, but these "promotions" were always unofficial I assumed especially considering Maquis personnel were in a state of conflict against the Federation.
