I know you're making an attempt at some witticism here, but that attempt is very flawed. One is a comedy-driven TV show the other is a painting.
Captain Picard's Ready Room Desk
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I know you're making an attempt at some witticism here, but that attempt is very flawed. One is a comedy-driven TV show the other is a painting.
Lower Decks style is bold, bright and immediately recognisable, it's not the dull generic sci-fi that some shows move towards.
As for Picard's choice of art, the work can't be faulted, though it's hardly the most inspired piece of work.
As for Picard's choice of art, the work can't be faulted, though it's hardly the most inspired piece of work.
You've never actually *seen* a paint-by-numbers painting, have you?
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Probert painted the ship, Sternbach painted the background.
Exactly, that's what I meant. It's technically well produced, it's just not very inspired or emotion/thought provoking.
what's your suggestion for an emotionally inspiring and provocative painting... in the ready room of that ship?
Well I was only detailing why I found the painting "blah" and why it would be the first thing I'd remove if I, by some fluke, became Captain of the Enterprise D.
And again, if I was living on a spaceship the last thing I'd hang on my wall would be a space-themed painting.
But if we keep the starship motive...something inspired by the Tears in the Rain monologue from Blade Runner?
A scene view of La Barre and the Picard Vineyard?what's your suggestion for an emotionally inspiring and provocative painting... in the ready room of that ship?
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I wonder if part of the issue with the Enterprise-D painting is simply due to the awful flat lighting and inexplicable coral colour scheme of Picard's ready room? On paper at least, a painting of the Enterprise by the person who designed the ship in real life and is an accomplished artist and graphic designer should be a thing of beauty. Pretty much any painting's going to look bad on the wall of that room. I've rewatched a lot of TNG recently and one of the big things I come away with is how horribly, horribly ugly the ready room is, even by the D's oh-so-very-beige oh-so-very-80s standards.
I'd like to see those who criticize it so oddly paint their own versions of the D. Let's see how accurate they will look
Do I really have to explain to you that statements like that are a ridiculous fallacy?
If we follow that nobody would be allowed to have a opinion on anything. Have you never looked at a painting or a TV show or anything artistic at all and thought that it is bad or mediocre?
If so...where is your TV show? Where is your movie? Where is your record deal? Heck, if that's your opinion you aren't even allowed to think clothing is ugly unless you are a tailor yourself. You aren't even allowed to think a leaky cup is inadequate unless you can produce one yourself, eh?
And again it's not about the accuracy, it's just that I find the painting looks boring.
I've always liked that painting! I know there are copies to be had for $$$ but couldn't afford it last I looked. Might have been out of stock/production to.
As for the size, the Disco's is HUGE compared to this one. Guess there using it for a conference room/ready room since the table ( Which when I saw Pike's nice wood one broke i was bummed.. I liked that one)
As for the size, the Disco's is HUGE compared to this one. Guess there using it for a conference room/ready room since the table ( Which when I saw Pike's nice wood one broke i was bummed.. I liked that one)
It's kinda like with a lot of fan art produced, especially based on the likes of discovery, a show I dislike and the aesthetics of which I find pretty horrendous, but seeing fan renders and the like I can appreciate the amount of time and effort and work that went into making the end product, but I still don't like the subject matter--a fine case of cognitive dissonance in action
Well, as an example, I loved the aesthetics and time taken by Weta digital to make Ghost in the shell look phenomenal.
But the move sucked so hard each DVD turned into a quantum singularity.
But the move sucked so hard each DVD turned into a quantum singularity.
The E-D painting does kind of look like the generic art one might see in a hotel room, but given the Ready Room's purpose, that may be intentional. It's a way to show some pride in the ship, but it's also somewhat bland, non-distracting art that will put Picard's company at ease.
Its meant to be a beauty shot of the ship, not some awesome, excitng, boner-enducing masterpiece that just makes you look at it and go "Fuck yeah!!! That's awesome, let's go blow some shit up!!!"
Fucking NuTrek has ruined the entire concept of this franchise. Picard's ready room should have been dark, blue lighting, he should have sat there with a grim, defeated, look on his face looking at paintings of battles and things on fire and wondering what's the next big thing he can do to end lives.
Fucking NuTrek has ruined the entire concept of this franchise. Picard's ready room should have been dark, blue lighting, he should have sat there with a grim, defeated, look on his face looking at paintings of battles and things on fire and wondering what's the next big thing he can do to end lives.
point out the criticism that addresses the painting's quality and required skills properly:
if you think that something that a lot of people can do, trillions, with no special skills or talent, is not done well here, and pretty lame, then you should demonstrate your qualification to make such an evaluation by revealing if you are part of that massive group of people and have similar skills - or not
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point out the criticism that addresses the painting's quality and required skills properly:
if you think that something that a lot of people can do, trillions, with no special skills or talent, is not done well here, and pretty lame, then you should demonstrate your qualification to make such an evaluation by revealing if you are part of that massive group of people and have similar skills - or not
Yeah, how about you don't mix up my words with those of others, for a start? I never said it wasn't skilled, so again, don't put words in my mouth. Inf act I called it "technically well made"
As for me thinking that "a lot" of people could do that...I stand by that. I still think the painting is concept art and if you look around movie productions there are a lot of people who produce concept art of a similar level. And if you look at places like deviant art there's a lot of people who can paint just as well as that "painting" or better. So, yes a lot of people have that skill.
My criticism of the painting has nothing to do with it looking like the Enterprise, it comes me finding it boring.A good painting, in my eyes, needs a lot more than just "looking like replication of a thing" And by that I stand, to me it is neither a interesting or does it provoke any emotional response.
you mixed yourself in with those by attacking my general statement
then it should be very likely that all these other critics here, not you, can show their matching or superior skills.
look, I can accept a certain someone's neverending criticism of anything and everything Eaves ever made, because they're addressing why they think it's unoriginal, and don't question his skills or talent for drawing and painting. that's not happening here so far.
OK! Enough pissing about the picture. About the desk???
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