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Captain Marvel (2019)

But to what extent are they different because we, as a society, train them to be different from birth? I have twin children, a boy and a girl. My daughter likes math, science, art and playing piano and she has a "tough" personality. My son likes literature and classic rock music and is scared of spiders and horror movies. He is more concerned with clothes and appearance than she is. He gives me hugs and kisses on the cheek in public and she prefers a smile and a high-five. They are 12 years old, and they don't correspond to what society expects of them in their personalities. They each have "traditionally" masculine and feminine traits. Is there something wrong with them?
Sounds like very healthy and happy childhoods. :)
 
Boys and girls are different...

Differences are not a competitive value or even learned behaviour. They are the nature of the beast. There are intrinsically male traits and female traits. It's all good.

They are, in fact, not. But learned behaviour. We, from a young age, start to give our boys cars and guns to play with and tell them to be strong and tough. When they, at ten years old, grab a toy car to play with and not cry when they hurt themselves, we call this typical boy behaviour. We give girls puppets and toys based on ironing boards and household equipment. When they, at 10 years old, say they really wanna be a mommy we say that's typical girl behaviour.

None of that is nature. It's all nurture.
 
. They each have "traditionally" masculine and feminine traits. Is there something wrong with them?

Traditional doesn't cover as much time as people think - the idea that boys like blue and girls like pink is not even 100 years old. Previous to this, nobody would even understand what you are talking about if you suggested there was a link between gender and colour.

There is virtually nothing that is not socially constructed in this way.
 
Sure, it's the Dailyfail, but sometimes you're just can't work with some co-stars. :guffaw:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowb...tain-Marvels-cat-Goose-set-shes-ALLERGIC.html
The whole Goose&Carol friendship is fake.
They ran into the same problem with the actress who plays Sabrina in The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. She didn't even know about the allergy until they started filming. There is one scene in the pilot where she pick up Salem, and I'm thinking that must be where she found out, because after that she never seems to get near him.
Exactly. Our society is based on gendernormes. Which is absurd. I work in a store, and the amount of customers that ask me which toys would suite a 3 year old girl, or a 5 year old boy as a gift..... Or, how many conversations I overhear that are loaded with 'that's so typically male/female of that person'..... As a society, we do it all the time.
I still remember back when I used to be in the toys department at the store where I work, I saw a couple with their young daughter, who was probably around 5 or 6, who was getting all excited about the Hot Wheels, and they seemed to be happy to let her pick herself out one. I thought it was great to see.
 
Are you saying there are no naturally occurring mental differences between the sexes or just that the expression of those differences are arbitrary?
That's like the question, so do you walk to school or carry your lunch?

The point is that many—but not all—behavioral differences that most people assume exist between the sexes are in fact entirely the result of nurture. When a behavioral difference is entirely the result of cultural nurture, there is no underlying mental difference that is innately due to sex which can account for that behavioral difference.

On the other hand, there are mental differences between the sexes. It's just that not all behavioral differences result from those.
 
Are you saying there are no naturally occurring mental differences between the sexes or just that the expression of those differences are arbitrary?
There are some differences between the sexes when it comes to the brain, but the majority of them are purely cultural and vary across different cultures. As a species we basically perform gender based on how others behave on an almost subconscious level.
 
The "want to see" rating for captain marvel on RT is 39%... What's that all about? First Marvel flop coming?
 
Are you saying there are no naturally occurring mental differences between the sexes or just that the expression of those differences are arbitrary?

Like Possum said, there are differences between the brainstructure of men and women. But what was always asumed to be typical male or female behaviour is now being re-evaluated. New studies are being done, new ways of looking at things. We're finally realizing that what we always thought was nature was nurture all along. We just asumed it was nature because we didn't know any better.
 

Exactly. We're looking at a $100 million opening weekend. Non-holiday.

I have no idea whether it's going to be good or not. If it isn't, I won't feel bad saying so.

But all the negativity and online attempts to turn people away from the film are transparently sexist. Obviously, blatantly so. They're overt about it, not subtle at all. Larson's words are twisted deliberately to justify this very ugly fanboy rage. The whole thing is disheartening.

We've got our tickets for Saturday afternoon: my wife, 16 year old son, and his pal. We're all looking forward to it. No matter what the trolls say.

I hope it's great. If not...it's just a movie.

:techman:
 
I want to see it this weekend but unfortunately I'll be out of town attending a wedding so I'll have to wait until the next week. :(
 
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