Captain Marvel (2019)

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  1. Gov Kodos

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    Deep, real deep, like a Marvel movie. I get it. You don't like them, and I am sorry that you are forced to watch them and even come here to comment on them. A pity society has placed this burden on you, but thank you for suffering for us all.
     
  2. Turtletrekker

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    As a long ago poster from a bygone era, Samuel T Cogley, might have said, "it's almost Christ-like".
     
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  3. Kemaiku

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    Right, murder bot was AoU. Still, why is Banner panicking in IW when Vision lifted the hammer in AoU? that settled what side he was on about as definitively as it gets. :lol:
     
  4. grendelsbayne

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    I don't see any reason to believe he's at all panicky about Vision. He's understandably on edge because he just saw Thanos trash all of Asgard plus the Hulk and they're telling him the Avengers are scattered and not talking to each other. He's worried for Vision's safety and for how they'll possibly ever be able to defend themselves against what's coming.
     
  5. Ruufio

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    I came here to read opinions on Captain Marvel! :wtf:
     
  6. Kemaiku

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    That may not have been the best idea.
     
  7. fireproof78

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    Two words-run fast.
     
  8. Serveaux

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    It was a pretty straightforward observation. If you can't offer a real objection to it, I suppose snark will have to do.
     
  9. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    Well...that lasted long. I admire your restraint? :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Gov Kodos

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    Some folks just have little else.
     
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  11. Turtletrekker

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    Round and round he goes, where he'll stop nobody knows.

    Apparently, earlier today on the movie's official website came official word that Jude Law was indeed playing Mar-Vell after all. Almost as soon as the information was posted, it was retracted (but not before it had been screen-captured and gone viral). What is so secretive about his role? it honestly doesn't matter to me one way or the other whether he's playing Mar-Vell or Yon Rogg, but the fact that they're being so secretive makes me wonder what kind of twists they're planning.
     
  12. Reverend

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    Maybe a Mandarin style bait & switch? I mean they have to know a certain portion of the audience is expecting him to be one or the other or a combination of both (the latter seems most likely) so by playing coy they're keeping expectations from settling on one or the other. That or there's nothing unexpected about him at all and this is all to distract from some other twist we won't see coming.
     
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  13. Anwar

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    I think they may have combined Mar-Vell and Yon-Rogg into one character for this movie.
     
  14. The Nth Doctor

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    That's what I've been thinking for awhile. I don't know much about either character beyond the basics so I don't know how compatible such a combination would be.
     
  15. JD

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    I read the first TPB (digital version) of Kelly Sue DeConnick's Capt. Marvel run, and it's gotten me even more excited for this. Even from the bits and pieces we see in the trailer, they seem to have done a great job with Carol.
     
  16. Nerys Myk

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    Mar-Rogg? Yon-Vell?
     
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  17. Turtletrekker

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    I knew that Marvel Comics would be flooding the market with Carol Danvers related content in the build up to the movie but wondered if they would be reprinting her most infamous tale, her rape at the hands of Marcus in Avengers 200.

    The story is being reprinted, for the first time to the best of my knowledge (I have tracked down collections reprinting 164-192, and then there seems to be an Avengers reprint gap from issues 193-212), but not in an Avengers collection, but rather a Ms. Marvel Epic Collection. The collection will complete Chris Claremont's run (as started in the previous volume), reprint a few of Carol's other appearances, and then reprint "content from Avengers 197-199, 200 and Annual 10".

    Annual 10, of course, was Claremont's rebuttal to Carol's treatment at the hands of her teammates in 200 and is the story that introduced Rogue into the canon. The two volumes will tell the near complete adventures (all that's missing are Carol's first stint as an Avenger in from issues 187-196) of Carol as Ms. Marvel up to the point that she hooked up with the X-Men and eventually became Binary.

    I'm glad Marvel is doing this. As bad as the story is, it is an integral part of Carol's journey in the comics and should presented, warts and all. At least it will have Claremont's follow-up, which was basically him saying "What the Hell were you thinking?"

    I wonder if Marvel will face backlash over this? It seems an odd question to ask, but stranger things have happened recently. Disney is particularly touchy over these things these days.
     
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  18. Awesome Possum

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    Given the reaction to The Killing Joke, I highly doubt it. Rape as drama hasn't aged well as a trope, no matter how good some people think the story is or how it's something such a major part of a character's backstory. In real life it's a traumatic situation and using it in fiction generally as character motivation, establishing a character as a villain and worst of all to motivate a male character to action is a cheap plot device. It's like stomping a puppy, but worse because sexual assault is so common for women that it's sort of belittles their experience.

    Disney and Marvel would be wise to just let it be forgotten like that time Peter Parker was molested. Especially since they are marketing the character to girls and women as an empowerment figure. They want little girls to see Captain Marvel and be inspired like how boys are inspired by Spidey or Ironman. It's not a good message to say that even with cosmic powers you'll still get raped and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
     
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  19. kirk55555

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    Marvel's Essential Avengers Volume 9
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    reprints (among other things) Avengers #185-206, including Avengers #200. I own this Essential volume and have read it, and can confirm that Avengers #200 is there. Also, a bit of an interesting thing, the cover of this Essential volume is actually also the cover to Avengers #200, just with the background cut out (and some recoloring, I think)

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  20. Turtletrekker

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    Of course! Essential Collections! I didn't even think to look at those because I'm looking for colorized reprints. But, yeah, 200 has therefore definitely been reprinted before. (I have all the original issues in the reprint gap I mentioned, but would rather not have to disturb them.)
     
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