Well if that idea were true, then remember...
the cylons and the BSG population came to our earth and procreated with the indigenous humans...and if that's part of the loop, then which came first? The chicken or the egg? 
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Well if that idea were true, then remember...
The alternative to real life designs would have been to use obvious props and sets along with bad CGI, and those things would have made the show look cheap.
And dub, the show does look like an episode of The Outer Limits. I don't think I've ever thought of it that way.
And dub, the show does look like an episode of The Outer Limits. I don't think I've ever thought of it that way.
@dub: That's the whole point of a closed loop. The question of what came first is irrelevant and unanswerable. The loop causes itself, each and every time.
Just like in the original Terminator, or (possibly) the original Planet of the Apes films.
Just like in the original Terminator, or (possibly) the original Planet of the Apes films.
No. There is some sort of god manipulating events to some extent. But the only direct action it seemed to take was having a piece of debris hit a Raptor, causing the hand of the dead pilot hit a button to shoot a missile. It could have been random, but the way it was shot implied that it was connected.
It also may have gotten the Colonial humans and Cylons to Earth by hiding clues in a Bob Dylan song that was actually written 152,000 years before he was born that independently emerged on at least the original Earth, current Earth and Caprica (since Kara knew the song because her father would play it).
It wasn't clear if the native humans on the second Earth were connected to that god, but it's possible. They weren't identical to Colonial humans, but they close enough that they could breed.
All of it is possible, just not likely. So it's just heavily implied that it was connected to the entity that Head Six called God. Other than it not liking being called God, it isn't even clear what it is. Baltar seemed to think it was closer to a force of nature than a being.
I always thought they were referring to Count Iblis.
I think Caprica's biggest issue was "World Building" pacing. They threw too many "World Building" Plot Elements out at the beginning, and tried to advance each one every episode, so it looked like the Series was going nowhere. I think it would have been much better received, if they had started with just 3 or 4, advance them some, and then build another 3 or 4, etc. (Many people actually have a problem with Babylon 5 "World Building" pacing in S1)
Overall I liked the Series personally, and thought the back half of the Season was almost all great or better episodes.
Overall I liked the Series personally, and thought the back half of the Season was almost all great or better episodes.
Once the plot threads start coming together towards the middle of the season, it starts becoming pretty amazing.
TerraNovan
Lieutenant Commander
Thats intentional.
And that, boys and girls, is why NuBSG should have been a continuation, rather than a reboot. Caprica could have been about the events taking place our time on Earth, that leads to the next Cylon War, involving the "New Colonies of Kobol", while NuBSG could have took place 100 years after the original events featured in BSG. As for Caprica itself: I liked it for what it was trying to do, and I didn't miind the familiarity of the aesthetics, including speaking English. After all, it's FICTION.
And stated in BSG though can't remember which ep.
TerraNovan
Lieutenant Commander
I dont get the problem..
The fact that caprica, is essentially a direct counterpart to earth is why I liked it so much.
That was one of the major problems I had with NuBSG when I found out it was intentional - but for a different reason than was beneficial to the plot. RDM & co. wanted to not make this too alien of a world to make it difficult for the general audience to relate to. So, they threw in things like euro cars, 19th and 20th century small arms weapons in Admiral Cain's ready room on the Pegasus, Starbuck's Humvee, pencils in the CIC labeled "made in China", keyboards at computer consoles with Windows logo buttons on them. There was no deep or hidden meaning behind any of it; no mysterious clues to ancient, hidden ties to the 13th tribe. Just a design choice to make this world more "accessible" to viewers, which I thought was a tremendous cop-out. Caprica followed in that proud tradition. It was interesting that they were using ancient Greek for the Tauron language, for example. Again, it meant nothing in the grand scheme of things - just sounded "kewel".
The worst one was the throw-away line when Roslyn was reading about "He who would not be named" from the Book of Pythia to Adama. No, not Voldemort (that phrase is a common trope in genre literature, shows and movies to artificially enhance a mysterious adversary to the heroes) - possibly a Count Iblis character. Possibly a key into the Grand Chess Game that he and the Higher Powers (Beings of Light) were playing using Humans and Cylons as pawns against each other; one of the best parts about the Original Series that they had an opportunity to introduce and never did. Were the "head people" angels or Beings of Light? Or were they minions of Count Iblis, the one true Cylon "god"? Sadly, we'll never know. Just another idea that was thrown against the wall and left to fall down on its own, with the writers hoping we would forget (and I'm sure most did). I shake my head when I look back at that show. It was great in so many ways and fell obscenely flat in way too many others.
^ It may have been a production decision early on but Moore did well at retroactively incorporating an explanation into the show.
According to the comics, they were the Ship of Lights people.
Loved it for Polly Walker, loved the general world building. But there were whole storylines and characters who were very tedious. Still, some great stuff and it really does improve as it goes along.
Nobody actually cares about this sort of thing. Caprica failed in large part because it was a muddled mess, not for whatever connections it had or failed to have with its parent series.
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