Capaldi Leaving Doctor Who

[Romulan_spy]

Gah. Only if her next action is to return to the alley where she was supposed to die and finishes the job.

That's harsh. Clara was my favorite companion ever. But it's probably just because I have a crush on Jenna Coleman.

In-universe, I do think it would make sense for Clara to appear since she was an important companion during Capaldi's tenure as the doctor. Of course, she would most likely return as a hallucination.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

A silly standard. Why can't the X-Mas special just be an X-Mas special? It kinda made sense for Time of the Doctor, as it was off the heels of the 50th anniversary and was saddled together as part of that celebration. This is just gimmick.

Well, it's less a gimmick and more a mechanic of the show structure now. The Doctor has always regenerated in the final story of the season (with the exception of The Fifth Doctor) which makes sense from a production stance. The Christmas episode has always acted as a bridge between the two seasons so it makes sense to have the regeneration episode occur then and than lead into a fresh slate for the next Doctor in the following season.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

With Hurt's passing, I feel like we've lost two Doctors.

Siding with the majority here, in that I love seeing Capaldi's Doctor at work, but haven't enjoyed the stories he's been given nearly as much. It was a slog getting through the last Christmas special, and he wasn't even IN it that much, comparatively speaking.

May this Doctor live long and prosper in Big FInish. For some reason I can see Capaldi doing a ton of those (if and when BBC will let him do it), not just for a paycheck, but because he's arguably the biggest DW fan ever to take the mantle.

Mark

 

[Mr Awe]

It's a shame that he's leaving. I would've loved to see him work with a new showrunner. Like others, I don't think his Doctor had the best material to work with. It's also sad because I expect that while, he always wanted to play the Doctor, his time in the role was not only less fun than expected but even unpleasant at times. Shame all around.

Mr Awe

 

[Mr Awe]

I can't divulge my source, unfortunately. It was something I was told directly by someone in a position to know. The reasons given were that Capaldi found the filming grueling and unpleasant. That's really all I can say. Sorry.

That's actually been widely reported, so no worries re: your source!

Mr Awe

 

[Skellington]

It would be interesting to have a regen at the midpoint of the two-part finale, but that's probably not on the cards. Can't really see Moffat having any more involvement with the new Doctor than Russell Davies did with Matt Smith, and nor does it seem likely that Chibnall will start with the Christmas special, if there is one (aside, of couirse, from doing a a post-regeneration moment).

The bookies' favourites, accirdubg to SFX:
http://www.gamesradar.com/peter-cap...-are-clear-favourites-to-replace-him-already/.

Number one is hardly surprising.

 

[Logopolis]

Someone give Ben Daniels a call...unless he's still busy with House of Cards.

 

[Worf2DS9]

As for Clara, i'm indifferent to her. I was never crazy about her but I was never irked by her presence. She was definitely a better companion for twelve than she was eleven.

Unfortunately we really only got a half-season's worth of episodes with Eleven and Clara, which to me was one of the tragedies of Matt Smith leaving when he did. I liked her more with him than with Twelve in Series 8, during which I downright hated her at times.

 

[Ovation]

Hugh Laurie (with Stephen Fry as his companion).

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Hugh Laurie (with Stephen Fry as his companion).

I would love this very much. Or perhaps subvert themselves and have Stephen Fry as The Doctor and Hugh Laurie as the companion?

 

[Ovation]

Sure. Either way would be great.

 

[Marc]

Someone give Ben Daniels a call...unless he's still busy with House of Cards.

Yes please.

 

[kirk55555]

Gah. Only if her next action is to return to the alley where she was supposed to die and finishes the job.

Yeah, I think that's the only acceptable reason for Clara to ever show up again.

 

[Timewalker]

That's harsh. Clara was my favorite companion ever. But it's probably just because I have a crush on Jenna Coleman.

I don't think it's harsh. I was actually feeling a tiny bit sad in her death scene when she was trying to will herself to be brave... and then PSYCH! "Nope, she's not dead after all - okay, she's sorta dead, but just suspended between one moment of death and being REALLY dead, and oh, look, is that a new TARDIS in the shape of a 1950s diner? SEE YA!"

I don't like being manipulated like that. If they're going to kill her off, make it permanent. Make it something the audience cares about, and don't cheapen it. Sara Kingdom didn't get to come back. Neither did Katarina, Adric, or other characters who died unfairly. They got around Peri's death by saying it was Timelord manipulation of some sort (don't recall the details). But she didn't stay on the show; she was given a happily-ever-after ending married to Brian Blessed's character (King somebody-or-other). And then she was really written out.

I know Adric returned a couple of times after his death, but he wasn't really there - both times were hallucinations, once when the Master was trying to influence Tegan and Nyssa, and the other when the Doctor was regenerating and obviously still feeling guilty about Adric's death. He wasn't magically zapped back to life or given many improbable chances at cheating death.

In-universe, I do think it would make sense for Clara to appear since she was an important companion during Capaldi's tenure as the doctor. Of course, she would most likely return as a hallucination.

Briefly, one hopes, and not able to influence or manipulate anything - no magic Timelord crap other than a simple "goodbye" to a companion when regenerating.


At this point people probably think I just flat-out hate Jenna Coleman. I hate her on Doctor Who, yes. I loathe Clara. But I am giving the actress a chance to impress me in the Victoria miniseries (currently showing on PBS). So far, not too bad. But I've only watched one episode.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I don't think it's harsh. I was actually feeling a tiny bit sad in her death scene when she was trying to will herself to be brave... and then PSYCH! "Nope, she's not dead after all - okay, she's sorta dead, but just suspended between one moment of death and being REALLY dead, and oh, look, is that a new TARDIS in the shape of a 1950s diner? SEE YA!"

I don't like being manipulated like that. If they're going to kill her off, make it permanent. Make it something the audience cares about, and don't cheapen it. Sara Kingdom didn't get to come back. Neither did Katarina, Adric, or other characters who died unfairly. They got around Peri's death by saying it was Timelord manipulation of some sort (don't recall the details). But she didn't stay on the show; she was given a happily-ever-after ending married to Brian Blessed's character (King somebody-or-other). And then she was really written out.

I know Adric returned a couple of times after his death, but he wasn't really there - both times were hallucinations, once when the Master was trying to influence Tegan and Nyssa, and the other when the Doctor was regenerating and obviously still feeling guilty about Adric's death. He wasn't magically zapped back to life or given many improbable chances at cheating death.

I agree with all of this except one part: Taking it on Clara. It's not her fault this happened. The writing for the character has had its up and downs, the downs mostly involving Danny Pink in series 9 and the handling of her death, so I'm not going to hate the character because Moffat wasn't able to let her go.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Wasn't it Coleman who asked to stay, and that "forced" Moffat to change the ending of Last Christmas?

Although I maintain that Moffat could've made it interesting and had young Clara rejoin the Doctor at the next season even after the Doctor saw her die of old age in Last Christmas. But that's just me.

 

[Timewalker]

I agree with all of this except one part: Taking it on Clara. It's not her fault this happened. The writing for the character has had its up and downs, the downs mostly involving Danny Pink in series 9 and the handling of her death, so I'm not going to hate the character because Moffat wasn't able to let her go.

Isn't it just sufficient that I hate the character, period? The writing for her was crap. Agreed. The fact that she never seemed to stay dead was irritating. But that mile-a-minute-mumbling of her lines really annoyed me as well. I should not have to use subtitles to figure out what the hell a Doctor Who character is saying.

 

[The Wormhole]

A silly standard. Why can't the X-Mas special just be an X-Mas special? It kinda made sense for Time of the Doctor, as it was off the heels of the 50th anniversary and was saddled together as part of that celebration. This is just gimmick.

There is a certain logic to having Capaldi's departure at Christmas, given we already know the special will be Moffat's finale. If Capaldi's leaving, might as well be at the same time. Although this does leave one with the impression that BBC is clearing the Scottish from Doctor Who.

I hope we see Clara make an appearance to say goodbye.

I'll be surprised if she doesn't.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Isn't it just sufficient that I hate the character, period? The writing for her was crap. Agreed. The fact that she never seemed to stay dead was irritating. But that mile-a-minute-mumbling of her lines really annoyed me as well. I should not have to use subtitles to figure out what the hell a Doctor Who character is saying.

Ah, my mistake. I misunderstood and though you liked Clara until her death-not-death.

 

[Starkers]

There is a certain logic to having Capaldi's departure at Christmas, given we already know the special will be Moffat's finale. If Capaldi's leaving, might as well be at the same time. Although this does leave one with the impression that BBC is clearing the Scottish from Doctor Who.

I'll be surprised if she doesn't.

Well we've yet to have a nuWho Doctor regenerate without an appearance from his signature companion even if only as a hallucination.

I don't mind Clara, she was an average companion imo. Not an Amy or a Donna or a Rory but less annoying than some I could mention